Vince Dooley Says Derek......

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sjt18 said:
Someone had to take the job and try to restore order. They went down the list and found Dooley who failed to win but DID re-build the foundation of the roster and restore order to the program administratively.

He negotiated the contract he did to protect himself from impatient fans... and did so wisely. I question whether he could have recovered from this year under any set of circumstances. OTOH, he is still the HC if Wilcox doesn't leave.

He hasn't "soiled" his name in any respect. He commanded a contract, got it, and is due the terms.
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Wrong. Many of us were calling for an interim hire. Fools like you attacked us and proclaimed DD a great hire and all he needed was time. I don't fault him for the contract because that's just business. The UT admin was and is the real problem.
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AlaskaVol said:
As a self imployed person and an employer this makes me sick. Paying Fulmer for his service was a far cry from paying for a total failure. Hammy should be sued by the State of Tennessee. Almost everyone else is more likely to be sued for their mistakes than given money.

Dooley soils his name and will not get another significant head coach job for taking this money. He, his father and anyone else who would perform as poorly as he has and hold the employer to a contract is dirt.

Besides suing Hammy, the university should fire Cheeks and anyone else responsible for dd getting 5 or 6 million dollars.

Apparently the Dooleys really have no pride.
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Sad but laughable.
 
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terrypedigo said:
If you think about it you take Walkers 3 years away, then you would not look at Vince as that good of a coach.:ermm:
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And if you took Tony Dorsett from Johnny Majors or Peyton Manning from Phil Fulmer or Tim Tebow from Urban Meyer . . .
 
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sjt18 said:
Dooley and any other sane coach would have said "NO" to a contract without a big buyout. He risked his career on a VERY risky job... and lost but still gets paid. Any of you in his shoes would have done exactly the same if you had any sense.
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Risk? Haha he should thank God every day that we have such idiots in the admin. He wasn't and never will be a capable head coach. No matter how much you love him, he sucks as a coach.
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The $5. Mill to get rid of DD's sorry ass is the best $ UT has spent in years.

And to the fools who want to say he left us better than he found us, you're living in a dream world.
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VolBeef88 said:
The $5. Mill to get rid of DD's sorry ass is the best $ UT has spent in years.

And to the fools who want to say he left us better than he found us, you're living in a dream world.
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Call me a dreamer then. I think he was a bad leader, but I honestly believe we're in better shape than in 2010. It would have been hard to make it any worse.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Risk? Haha he should thank God every day that we have such idiots in the admin. He wasn't and never will be a capable head coach. No matter how much you love him, he sucks as a coach.
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Glad to know some things will never change. Merry Christmas Beef! Hope you have a wonderful holiday season!!
 
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Engrish good?

GBOVOLS said:
Well the guys is suppose to defend his son no matter what. Derek sucks as a HC though. No.amount of patients would have made that situation any better. People have been citing years for.you to show you were a good coach it never happen nor.it ever will
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AlaskaVol said:
As a self imployed person and an employer this makes me sick. Paying Fulmer for his service was a far cry from paying for a total failure. Hammy should be sued by the State of Tennessee. Almost everyone else is more likely to be sued for their mistakes than given money.

Dooley soils his name and will not get another significant head coach job for taking this money. He, his father and anyone else who would perform as poorly as he has and hold the employer to a contract is dirt.

Besides suing Hammy, the university should fire Cheeks and anyone else responsible for dd getting 5 or 6 million dollars.

Apparently the Dooleys really have no pride.
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A contract is a contract even if we don`t like it. Tennessee had 2 choices:

1. Honor the remainder of the contract which was 3 years at an average salary of about 2.15 million and let him continue to be head coach. Total cost over 6 million dollars and probably 3 more years of losing records.

OR:
2. Fire him (which is what most fans wanted) and buy him out so they don`t have to honor the contract and we possibly get another coach that will deliver wins. Total cost of 5 million dollars and how we have another coach that hopefully will have us back to competing for championships.


Which choice did you want?

I still don`t understand why people are so upset about the buyout. If Dooley had been successful and had bolted for another job he would had to pay a huge buyout too.

These days every coach and University protects themselves. Just part of the game.
 
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AlaskaVol said:
As a self imployed person and an employer this makes me sick. Paying Fulmer for his service was a far cry from paying for a total failure. Hammy should be sued by the State of Tennessee. Almost everyone else is more likely to be sued for their mistakes than given money.

Dooley soils his name and will not get another significant head coach job for taking this money. He, his father and anyone else who would perform as poorly as he has and hold the employer to a contract is dirt.

Besides suing Hammy, the university should fire Cheeks and anyone else responsible for dd getting 5 or 6 million dollars.

Apparently the Dooleys really have no pride.
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You should call Dooley and tell him that in person oh brave judge of all people you don't even know ...half the people on the nation were worried about Dooley leaving for Georgia not long ago..which is why he gets the big buyout
 
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What I don't understand is why they didn't hire an OC when Lane left. It would be hard to find a good HC at the time Lane left, but they could have had a lot of OC to choose from.
 
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volnpowell said:
What I don't understand is why they didn't hire an OC when Lane left. It would be hard to find a good HC at the time Lane left, but they could have had a lot of OC to choose from.
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I don't know for sure but with the NCAA about to get to campus and smell around the stench that kiffy left I'm thinking a lawyer with both HC and AD experience made hammy happy that he could hire someone smarter than he. Just IMHO thats all...
 
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AlaskaVol said:
As a self imployed person and an employer this makes me sick. Paying Fulmer for his service was a far cry from paying for a total failure. Hammy should be sued by the State of Tennessee. Almost everyone else is more likely to be sued for their mistakes than given money.

Dooley soils his name and will not get another significant head coach job for taking this money. He, his father and anyone else who would perform as poorly as he has and hold the employer to a contract is dirt.

Besides suing Hammy, the university should fire Cheeks and anyone else responsible for dd getting 5 or 6 million dollars.

Apparently the Dooleys really have no pride.
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really? name one coach that has ever said" I know that we didn't win, so here, I don't think I deserve this buy out money. He is gone folks. get over it!
 
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GAVol said:
Call me a dreamer then. I think he was a bad leader, but I honestly believe we're in better shape than in 2010. It would have been hard to make it any worse.
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Dreamer...

At best all we did was tread water while he was here. His best year was his 1st year. Or if you ask his followers his year zero was his best year.
Either way it was an atrocious hire and Mike Hamilton and Cheek should go down as the worst or at least in the mention of the worst things that have ever happened to UT athletics.
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