Vols #11 in Playoff as of 11/19

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ZoeVol said:
I have been studying this for over a week. This is how I see it, after we beat UTEP and Vandy.
The Vols many paths to make the playoffs-only need 1 of these:

ND looses to Army or USC=41%
Ohio State slaughters Indiana =~30%
Bama looses to Oklahoma or Auburn=24%
Texas looses big to Tam-22%
UF beats Ole Miss-22%
Georgia looses to Georgia Tech-10%
Bama whips TAM-SECCG-Bama 11-2 Tam 10-3 -Vols pass Tam and Tex 10-2=~30%
Bama whips Texas-SECCG-Bama 11-2 Tex 11-2 -Vols pass Tex=~30%
Texas whips Bama in SECCG-Tex 12-1 Bama 10-3 -Vols might pass Bama=~5%
TAM whips Bama in SECCG-Tam 11-2 Bama 10-3 -Vols might pass Bama=~3%
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Great analysis. Thanks for doing this.
Pet peeve correction by son of English teacher: “Loose” means the opposite of something tight. “Lose” is the opposite of win.
 
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Hulavol said:
That bye is a BIG damn deal. You get to play a team that’s probably beat to hell. (Of course you got beat to hell in the SECCG too, but got a week off to heal up). The team that LOSES the SECCG is probably gonna be in some deep poo-poo though -beat to hell and right back at against a team with a month off….
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Essentially, conference championship is first round. Winner gets bye in playoff. So, if teams have same record and loser in championship game is in a pack of even record teams, that team should be out. Because, they had a chance.
 
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ZoeVol said:
I have been studying this for over a week. This is how I see it, after we beat UTEP and Vandy.
The Vols many paths to make the playoffs-only need 1 of these:

ND looses to Army or USC=41%
Ohio State slaughters Indiana =~30%
Bama looses to Oklahoma or Auburn=24%
Texas looses big to Tam-22%
UF beats Ole Miss-22%
Georgia looses to Georgia Tech-10%
Bama whips TAM-SECCG-Bama 11-2 Tam 10-3 -Vols pass Tam and Tex 10-2=~30%
Bama whips Texas-SECCG-Bama 11-2 Tex 11-2 -Vols pass Tex=~30%
Texas whips Bama in SECCG-Tex 12-1 Bama 10-3 -Vols might pass Bama=~5%
TAM whips Bama in SECCG-Tam 11-2 Bama 10-3 -Vols might pass Bama=~3%
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As soon as I saw the word “looses” I stopped reading. 😂
 
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If anyone thinks osu is going to blown out iu you need to think again. Iu has been preparing for this game for a long time because of their cake walk through the season. Plus osu isn’t really that good either imo.
 
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valoisvol said:
If anyone thinks osu is going to blown out iu you need to think again. Iu has been preparing for this game for a long time because of their cake walk through the season. Plus osu isn’t really that good either imo.
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If OSU is really not that good, then neither is Oregon or PSU - so basically you are saying the entire B1G is not any good.
 
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Jaxon_Vol2017 said:
Notre Dame or texas losing helps as well
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I disagree on this. We want Texas to beat A&M. Texas is solidly in regardless of a 2nd loss. A&M beating Texas not only gives them a quality win but will get to play in SEC title game which is low risk for them. If they lose they wont be penalized much at all for extra game and yet if they win it's 100% in which definitely steals a bid from the other at large contenders and we would be lowest.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
I disagree on this. We want Texas to beat A&M. Texas is solidly in regardless of a 2nd loss. A&M beating Texas not only gives them a quality win but will get to play in SEC title game which is low risk for them. If they lose they wont be penalized much at all for extra game and yet if they win it's 100% in which definitely steals a bid from the other at large contenders and we would be lowest.
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A&M is out with a loss regardless of where it happens as that will give them 3 losses.

If Texas losses to A&M they will drop. The score and how well other teams do will dictate where they drop too. I would expect the ranking to self-correct and provided Georgia wins, Georgia would bubble above Texas which if there were no other upsets with SEC teams - they fall below at least Bama, Ole Miss and UGA - The question would be around whether the adjustment puts them below Tennessee and what they do with A&M who would still just have 2 losses and would have beaten Texas.

I don't think Texas is solidly in with a 2nd loss. If the 2nd loss comes in the championship game, maybe but in the regular season - shifting of the teams is also factoring in what happened that week and all teams are playing with a chance to look really good or really bad.
 
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VolBalls33 said:
Indiana even if they are really good, hasn't beaten anyone with 7 wins. Having only to play one ranked team all season is BS.

Miami will play the entire regular season not playing 1 ranked team. SMU only BYU. Clemson 2 ranked SEC teams. Crazy SMU Clemson or Miami didn't play one another. How will the ACC choose who plays in the title game? All 3 could be 7 and 1. Or Clemson or Miami vs SMU.
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Clearly I want them to lose if it helps Tennessee but no way did we expect boy Michigan and Washington to be as pedestrian as they are. Sometimes schedule can come down to luck. That being said if Michigan or Washington were better then Indiana likely isn't unbeaten so there is that argument.

We for instance thought we would get some mileage out of that NC State win and that proves to be helping us very little. We tried a good opponent on a neutral field and turns out they aren't good. Lol
 
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volfan102455 said:
A&M is out with a loss regardless of where it happens as that will give them 3 losses.

If Texas losses to A&M they will drop. The score and how well other teams do will dictate where they drop too. I would expect the ranking to self-correct and provided Georgia wins, Georgia would bubble above Texas which if there were no other upsets with SEC teams - they fall below at least Bama, Ole Miss and UGA - The question would be around whether the adjustment puts them below Tennessee and what they do with A&M who would still just have 2 losses and would have beaten Texas.

I don't think Texas is solidly in with a 2nd loss. If the 2nd loss comes in the championship game, maybe but in the regular season - shifting of the teams is also factoring in what happened that week and all teams are playing with a chance to look really good or really bad.
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My argument is that Texas with a second loss will still be in the mix. A&M winning that big of statement game at years end gives them an edge. We unfortunately just lost our last big eye catching matchup. So we can't just beat the last 2 but convincingly do so. Clearly UTEP should offer no resistance but our SOS will drop and Vanderbilt won't help SOS either but not terribly yet I feel enough humans will not worry about who Vanderbilt has beaten and will still view them as Vanderbilt and we will be held to standard of handle them easily or a close win won't reward us. Very unfair but that's what I see with that.
 
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If SOS was truly a factor in all of this - there would be more SEC teams at the top and the entire top 10 would look very different.

I don't think it is being considered as much as everyone thinks it is.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
My argument is that Texas with a second loss will still be in the mix. A&M winning that big of statement game at years end gives them an edge. We unfortunately just lost our last big eye catching matchup. So we can't just beat the last 2 but convincingly do so. Clearly UTEP should offer no resistance but our SOS will drop and Vanderbilt won't help SOS either but not terribly yet I feel enough humans will not worry about who Vanderbilt has beaten and will still view them as Vanderbilt and we will be held to standard of handle them easily or a close win won't reward us. Very unfair but that's what I see with that.
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No way to view them as same old Vanderbilt, they clearly outplayed Bama and gave Texas all they wanted. That is no fluke. GBO
 
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volfan102455 said:
If SOS was truly a factor in all of this - there would be more SEC teams at the top and the entire top 10 would look very different.

I don't think it is being considered as much as everyone thinks it is.
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Agree. Which is why I believe IU stays in bracket regardless of how badly they are beaten this weekend.
 
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newyorkvol said:
Agree. Which is why I believe IU stays in bracket regardless of how badly they are beaten this weekend.
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And it’s why the SEC will pull out in 2026 if it goes that way. A conference championship in a weak conference should not get you automatically in the playoff and most certainly not a top 4 bye. I can’t believe they ever agreed to that in the first place. Take Boise maybe they should be in, but as far as seeded in the top 4 that’s just crazy. You should have to be in the top 12, not just automically given the top 4 spot. GBO
 
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