Vols APR Rate Is More Serious Than Most Think

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utvolpj said:
I did not call you anything. Your posts did all the work
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Well, I wouldn't mind felons not being able to play college ball. The colleges don't accept felons for students. We live in a society that makes up excuses for these thugs. If we held people more accountable, ignorance would decrease.
 
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I see that Bob Gilbert is continuing his one-man crusade to bring down the evil doers in all things Tennessee...what a maroon!
 
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rocktopper16 said:
http://www.tennessean.com/article/D.../Vols-APR-rate-more-serious-than-some-believe

It is amazing how the spoon-fed Knoxville media play into the hands of the Tennessee Vol propaganda machine and depict an ugly academic situation as a ray of sunshine.

This media funny-business doesn’t just involve Tennessee; it goes on throughout big-time college football. But today I’m strictly addressing the Tennessee scene.

The Vol fan base learned two weeks ago that Tennessee’s academic progress rate (APR) is the lowest in the SEC, raising the chances of a possible bowl ban in 2014.

But don’t worry, said UT and the media, the pitiful classroom performance occurred before athletics director Dave Hart and head football coach Butch Jones came on board.

In all fairness, Tennessee’s failing APR of 926 (the passing grade in 2014 will be 930) was not its fault. Blame it on Phil Fulmer, Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley and Mike Hamilton.

So you’ll know: A 926 APR equates to graduating fewer than half of the team’s players.

And any university that graduates that few students is a disgrace. Tennessee fits the “football factory” label nicely.

While there are some Tennessee football players who want a degree, the latest APR shows clearly that most don’t care one whit about getting an education. Most are there because they believe Tennessee is a pathway to the riches of the NFL.

The party line fed to the public two weeks ago is that Central Michigan and Cincinnati, on Jones’ watch, improved their academic performance and Tennessee’s APR failure will be corrected before this time a year from now. That remains to be seen.

Not only have the Vols suffered three straight losing seasons for the first time in school history, as a group they don’t seem capable of spelling “UT.”

The only way to correct Tennessee’s disgraceful academic problem is to stop recruiting players who aren’t prepared to do college-level classroom work and stop signing players whose main goal is to reach the NFL.
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This is another example of flawed conclusions from misleading data. The real question you failed to answer was how many 4th yr seniors graduate? Your data base includes all those who have transferred or gone to the NFL early plus a stereotypical attitude that good football players are stupid and mostly likely thugs. You and Al Gore should be best friends since your research techniques are quite similar.
 
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GBO-Bartlett said:
This is another example of flawed conclusions from misleading data. The real question you failed to answer was how many 4th yr seniors graduate? Your data base includes all those who have transferred or gone to the NFL early plus a stereotypical attitude that good football players are stupid and mostly likely thugs. You and Al Gore should be best friends since your research techniques are quite similar.
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IIRC if they are in good academic standing when they leave UT then it would not hurt us.
 
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it is the number of graduates that the op was referring to not the overall academic standing of each player. It is the same tool used by NCLB when determining the HS graduation rate...all freshmen entering vs number of seniors graduating.
 
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utvolpj said:
IIRC if they are in good academic standing when they leave UT then it would not hurt us.
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It still hurts, it just doesn't hurt double. You lose a point for one leaving without a degree, two if they leave in poor academic standing.
 
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rocktopper16 said:
http://www.tennessean.com/article/D.../Vols-APR-rate-more-serious-than-some-believe

It is amazing how the spoon-fed Knoxville media play into the hands of the Tennessee Vol propaganda machine and depict an ugly academic situation as a ray of sunshine.

This media funny-business doesn’t just involve Tennessee; it goes on throughout big-time college football. But today I’m strictly addressing the Tennessee scene. Don't call me Shirley - YouTube

The Vol fan base learned two weeks ago that Tennessee’s academic progress rate (APR) is the lowest in the SEC, raising the chances of a possible bowl ban in 2014.

But don’t worry, said UT and the media, the pitiful classroom performance occurred before athletics director Dave Hart and head football coach Butch Jones came on board.

In all fairness, Tennessee’s failing APR of 926 (the passing grade in 2014 will be 930) was not its fault. Blame it on Phil Fulmer, Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley and Mike Hamilton.

So you’ll know: A 926 APR equates to graduating fewer than half of the team’s players.

And any university that graduates that few students is a disgrace. Tennessee fits the “football factory” label nicely.

While there are some Tennessee football players who want a degree, the latest APR shows clearly that most don’t care one whit about getting an education. Most are there because they believe Tennessee is a pathway to the riches of the NFL.

The party line fed to the public two weeks ago is that Central Michigan and Cincinnati, on Jones’ watch, improved their academic performance and Tennessee’s APR failure will be corrected before this time a year from now. That remains to be seen.

Not only have the Vols suffered three straight losing seasons for the first time in school history, as a group they don’t seem capable of spelling “UT.”

The only way to correct Tennessee’s disgraceful academic problem is to stop recruiting players who aren’t prepared to do college-level classroom work and stop signing players whose main goal is to reach the NFL.
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Surely, you are not serious!!!
 
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VolFanInHawaii said:
Sure that's an issue. So is losing games and the lack of stability in the program since Fulmer got canned. That low number is likely highly influenced by the lack of winning and stability. Just consider how many players have either transferred or been dismissed from the team in recent years.
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Key words, "lack of stability". Kids have been coming to UT and leaving for what ever reason be it trouble or transfer during coaching changes. This is prolly more a symptom than a primary issue...
 
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Stop signing players who want to play in the NFL? Those would be the best players so if we don't sign them we will be awful like the past 3 years. We have the number 1 class right now and these players could bring us back to the top. So screw you and your stupid opinion.
 
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rocktopper16 said:
http://www.tennessean.com/article/D.../Vols-APR-rate-more-serious-than-some-believe

It is amazing how the spoon-fed Knoxville media play into the hands of the Tennessee Vol propaganda machine and depict an ugly academic situation as a ray of sunshine.

This media funny-business doesn’t just involve Tennessee; it goes on throughout big-time college football. But today I’m strictly addressing the Tennessee scene.

The Vol fan base learned two weeks ago that Tennessee’s academic progress rate (APR) is the lowest in the SEC, raising the chances of a possible bowl ban in 2014.

But don’t worry, said UT and the media, the pitiful classroom performance occurred before athletics director Dave Hart and head football coach Butch Jones came on board.

In all fairness, Tennessee’s failing APR of 926 (the passing grade in 2014 will be 930) was not its fault. Blame it on Phil Fulmer, Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley and Mike Hamilton.

So you’ll know: A 926 APR equates to graduating fewer than half of the team’s players.

And any university that graduates that few students is a disgrace. Tennessee fits the “football factory” label nicely.

While there are some Tennessee football players who want a degree, the latest APR shows clearly that most don’t care one whit about getting an education. Most are there because they believe Tennessee is a pathway to the riches of the NFL.

The party line fed to the public two weeks ago is that Central Michigan and Cincinnati, on Jones’ watch, improved their academic performance and Tennessee’s APR failure will be corrected before this time a year from now. That remains to be seen.

Not only have the Vols suffered three straight losing seasons for the first time in school history, as a group they don’t seem capable of spelling “UT.”

The only way to correct Tennessee’s disgraceful academic problem is to stop recruiting players who aren’t prepared to do college-level classroom work and stop signing players whose main goal is to reach the NFL.
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Just wondering....How do you think your Commodores will do this year???????
 
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rocktopper16 said:
http://www.tennessean.com/article/D.../Vols-APR-rate-more-serious-than-some-believe

It is amazing how the spoon-fed Knoxville media play into the hands of the Tennessee Vol propaganda machine and depict an ugly academic situation as a ray of sunshine.

This media funny-business doesn’t just involve Tennessee; it goes on throughout big-time college football. But today I’m strictly addressing the Tennessee scene.

The Vol fan base learned two weeks ago that Tennessee’s academic progress rate (APR) is the lowest in the SEC, raising the chances of a possible bowl ban in 2014.

But don’t worry, said UT and the media, the pitiful classroom performance occurred before athletics director Dave Hart and head football coach Butch Jones came on board.

In all fairness, Tennessee’s failing APR of 926 (the passing grade in 2014 will be 930) was not its fault. Blame it on Phil Fulmer, Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley and Mike Hamilton.

So you’ll know: A 926 APR equates to graduating fewer than half of the team’s players.

And any university that graduates that few students is a disgrace. Tennessee fits the “football factory” label nicely.

While there are some Tennessee football players who want a degree, the latest APR shows clearly that most don’t care one whit about getting an education. Most are there because they believe Tennessee is a pathway to the riches of the NFL.

The party line fed to the public two weeks ago is that Central Michigan and Cincinnati, on Jones’ watch, improved their academic performance and Tennessee’s APR failure will be corrected before this time a year from now. That remains to be seen.

Not only have the Vols suffered three straight losing seasons for the first time in school history, as a group they don’t seem capable of spelling “UT.”

The only way to correct Tennessee’s disgraceful academic problem is to stop recruiting players who aren’t prepared to do college-level classroom work and stop signing players whose main goal is to reach the NFL.
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You must be a closet Vandy fan.
 
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rocktopper16 said:
http://www.tennessean.com/article/D.../Vols-APR-rate-more-serious-than-some-believe

It is amazing how the spoon-fed Knoxville media play into the hands of the Tennessee Vol propaganda machine and depict an ugly academic situation as a ray of sunshine.

This media funny-business doesn’t just involve Tennessee; it goes on throughout big-time college football. But today I’m strictly addressing the Tennessee scene.

The Vol fan base learned two weeks ago that Tennessee’s academic progress rate (APR) is the lowest in the SEC, raising the chances of a possible bowl ban in 2014.

But don’t worry, said UT and the media, the pitiful classroom performance occurred before athletics director Dave Hart and head football coach Butch Jones came on board.

In all fairness, Tennessee’s failing APR of 926 (the passing grade in 2014 will be 930) was not its fault. Blame it on Phil Fulmer, Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley and Mike Hamilton.

So you’ll know: A 926 APR equates to graduating fewer than half of the team’s players.

And any university that graduates that few students is a disgrace. Tennessee fits the “football factory” label nicely.

While there are some Tennessee football players who want a degree, the latest APR shows clearly that most don’t care one whit about getting an education. Most are there because they believe Tennessee is a pathway to the riches of the NFL.

The party line fed to the public two weeks ago is that Central Michigan and Cincinnati, on Jones’ watch, improved their academic performance and Tennessee’s APR failure will be corrected before this time a year from now. That remains to be seen.

Not only have the Vols suffered three straight losing seasons for the first time in school history, as a group they don’t seem capable of spelling “UT.”

The only way to correct Tennessee’s disgraceful academic problem is to stop recruiting players who aren’t prepared to do college-level classroom work and stop signing players whose main goal is to reach the NFL.
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OK!!!:clapping:
 
#99
#99
Well CP is gone, Dobbs is here! That has to be worth at least 10 points.

I believe a big part of this hit is that great recruiting class we had in 09 or 10 that 2/3 of the players have left the program.

I also remember CBJ commenting that last semester it was vastly improved (for that semester). I want to say it was 952 or higher. So I think we hit rock bottom already. Perhaps CBJ could round up a dozen or so nerds and let them stay in the dorms with the athletes. It is always nice to have some smart ones on the ready to help out.

Only recruit 5 star athletes from private schools. Shouldn't be too hard, right?
 
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