Vols Fans that pull for bama cause they in the sec please read.

No.

There is a trend.. My Memphis buddies have a disdain for Ole Miss. My Atlanta buddies view UGA as obno. I hardly ever come across Clemson fans in my world. Bama surrounds me all day and it is nice when they quit crowing.

If you think we recruit more against Clemson than Bama, I think you are wrong. Seems many just concede to Saban and recruiting. If we are going to ever be a championship caliber team, we need to be able to put together a better story and get those recruits that normally would go to Bama. Every loss they get chips away at their swag and benefits us.

Losing NC games while your opponents are in the Outback Bowl isn't going to even slowly erode their program. I dont necessarily think we recruit more against Clemson than Bama but the teams battling for talent in the Carolina's and VA is less than those in GA and FL. Clemson has started locking down SC and has steadily become the go to school for NC kids. As Clemson and USC have improved, our recruiting presence in those areas has dwindled.
 
There were a bunch of idiots chanting "SEC, SEC, SEC, SEC!" today in the stands. Instead of chanting "Tennessee", they chose to go with SEC.

#stupid


The only reason to do this is simple; it makes every the fans of all 12 B10 teams madder than hell for some odd reason.

However, the stupid is rednecks who surmise the success of our rivals makes us "look good". I have met a few people that bring that up. Amd since then, I just walk away when they start trying to talk football.

Name one Tennessee player that came to Tennessee because Alabama or LSU or Florida won a title. It doesn't happen, Skippy.
 
The only reason to do this is simple; it makes every the fans of all 12 B10 teams madder than hell for some odd reason.

However, the stupid is rednecks who surmise the success of our rivals makes us "look good". I have met a few people that bring that up. Amd since then, I just walk away when they start trying to talk football.

Name one Tennessee player that came to Tennessee because Alabama or LSU or Florida won a title. It doesn't happen, Skippy.
Someone doesn't understand conference perception, and how it benefits successful teams from that conference in the polls. Almost as if the last 20 years of college football is foreign to some people. Odd.
 
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The only reason to do this is simple; it makes every the fans of all 12 B10 teams madder than hell for some odd reason.

However, the stupid is rednecks who surmise the success of our rivals makes us "look good". I have met a few people that bring that up. Amd since then, I just walk away when they start trying to talk football.

Name one Tennessee player that came to Tennessee because Alabama or LSU or Florida won a title. It doesn't happen, Skippy.

Never heard a recruit say "they're in the SEC, they play the best football there. If you want to be the best you have to play the best" when getting a UT offer or any other SEC offer? If not, follow the recruiting forum more. You'll see quotes like that littered everywhere.
 
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You'd be wrong.

I was the biggest UT fan the night you guys played FSU for the national title.

Ditto for LSU, Auburn and Alabama when they represented the conference.

I believe the FSU due to a possible coin toss situation or a bet.
 
11-1 Ohio St played in the weakest conference last year according to perception. They won the whole thing. Oklahoma made it this year even though they're from the same conference as Baylor and TCU, but then again OU is a traditional power while Baylor and TCU are not. A 1 loss SEC team will be just fine as long as it's Alabama, Auburn, LSU, UF, UT, or UGA. If it's Mizzou or SCjr or Miss St maybe not so much. It's more about team perception than conference perception.

Blue Blood programs will get the benefit of the doubt. A team like Mizzoo would get "Auburned" and their coach would have to buy them rings like Tubbs did.
 
Here's a quote from today from Mique Juarez, 5* LB from California who named Ole Miss and UCLA as his two favorites and that heÂ’s basically done with other programs.

"Ole Miss is great, the SEC, they produce linebackers out there,” Juarez said.

Why would Ole Miss's conference affiliation have anything to do with it? They're not the one winning NC titles.
 
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Here's a quote from today from Mique Juarez, 5* LB from California who named Ole Miss and UCLA as his two favorites and that heÂ’s basically done with other programs.

"Ole Miss is great, the SEC, they produce linebackers out there,” Juarez said.

Why would Ole Miss's conference affiliation have anything to do with it? They're not the one winning NC titles.

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Right on. Any of our teams winning just makes our conference look better.

I respect yalls sec love but I dont think that way or will I. I hope TN rivals never win another title again. If TN is not the sec team winning it I sure aint pulling for bammer or fl to fill their trophey case. Silly! I hope bammer loses every game.

Are you sec fans tired of bammer? Tired of seeing all the wagon fans all over TN? I am and hope they fall off the high horse. I have TN pride not sec pride
 
You'd be wrong.

I was the biggest UT fan the night you guys played FSU for the national title.

Ditto for LSU, Auburn and Alabama when they represented the conference.

But you guys also hate FSU more than UT; that's a bit different. Plus only one of those other 3 are actually rivals to UF, but you two don't play each other enough for it to mean as much anymore.

The better question for comparison might be, if UGA were playing for a national title against let's say TCU or Oregon, would you be cheering for the Georgia Bulldogs to win a national championship?
 
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The point being made is if we have a loss and the conference is perceived as weak, we won't have the opportunity to play for a title. That's the debate. If you go undefeated in a P5 conference it's a moot point. But that hasn't happened in the SEC since 2011. The reason the SEC routinely gets 1 loss teams and even a 2 loss team (in 2007) in the title is because of the strength of the conference. Ask 11-1 Baylor or 11-1 TCU how it felt to be in the playoffs last year?

Baylor would have been in had it actually scheduled a decent non-conference opponent, other than an FCS team, a horrific 1-win SMU team, and a 5-6 University of Buffalo, of all possible combinations.

TCU missed out because they didn't win their conference.
 
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11-1 Ohio St played in the weakest conference last year according to perception. They won the whole thing. Oklahoma made it this year even though they're from the same conference as Baylor and TCU, but then again OU is a traditional power while Baylor and TCU are not. A 1 loss SEC team will be just fine as long as it's Alabama, Auburn, LSU, UF, UT, or UGA. If it's Mizzou or SCjr or Miss St maybe not so much. It's more about team perception than conference perception.

Blue Blood programs will get the benefit of the doubt. A team like Mizzoo would get "Auburned" and their coach would have to buy them rings like Tubbs did.

It possibly benefits the smaller, less marketed, less traditional/smaller fanbase teams the most.

It helps the teams like Missouri in 2013, for example, go into that conference championship game at 11-1 and have a ranking high enough to get a shot at a title were they to win. Just the same, one can see what it did for teams like Mississippi State and Ole Miss in the playoff race during the 2014 season (before the last month).

If the bigger, traditional power names in the conference - UT, UF, UGA, Alabama, LSU, Auburn - perform at an undefeated or 1-loss level on the season, they're almost always going to get in.

People do go more with familiarity, which is actually a shame sometimes; it greatly benefits the more traditional programs but also makes it so tough for other programs to break through their ceilings to the next level.
 
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The only reason to do this is simple; it makes every the fans of all 12 B10 teams madder than hell for some odd reason.

However, the stupid is rednecks who surmise the success of our rivals makes us "look good". I have met a few people that bring that up. Amd since then, I just walk away when they start trying to talk football.

Name one Tennessee player that came to Tennessee because Alabama or LSU or Florida won a title. It doesn't happen, Skippy.

Just as an fyi, there are 14 Big10 teams now.
 
If Tennessee isn't playing, I don't care who wins unless the outcome has an impact on Tennessee.

I'll watch the NCG and enjoy it, but I really couldn't care less who wins. Oddly, not having a dog in the hunt makes the games more enjoyable in some ways. It's nice to spend three hours watching football without being an emotional wreck.

I will say that I have listened to several interviews from Dabo Sweeny this post season. He seems like he has the right attitude and approach to all of this.
 
I respect yalls sec love but I dont think that way or will I. I hope TN rivals never win another title again. If TN is not the sec team winning it I sure aint pulling for bammer or fl to fill their trophey case. Silly! I hope bammer loses every game.

Are you sec fans tired of bammer? Tired of seeing all the wagon fans all over TN? I am and hope they fall off the high horse. I have TN pride not sec pride

My work takes me up north quite a bit, and when some of them yankees see me wearing my TN gear, they literally can't shut they're mouth about our Vols and in they're words, the SEC is the biggest cheating conference in the college game. Just go up north for awhile and you will might come back with my attitude about the SEC. I'm hoping Bama drives the Tigers through the ground! Especially after all the crap talk the Clemson fans have said about the SEC and the Vols. Ever since RB Feaster took a visit to Knoxville, and Johnson flipped to them, they can't shut they're mouths about it. So yeah I'm going to pull for the best conference in college football. And it's been mentioned quite a few times this bowl about TN almost beating Bama this season. Especially after the smacking they gave the Spartans. So IMO the stronger the conference is, the better the wins look for our Vols or any other SEC school.
 
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The SEC isnt good because Bama is good. The SEC is good because the vast majority of teams are good.

When the SEC wins in bowl season instead of mid season when we're beating the s*** out of each other it shows just how tough each team is, not just one. Just keep it in mind - when one wins we all win




That being, I'm still pulling for Clemson because I'm tired of bama. Being 8-2 in bowls we dont need their win to show how dominate our conference is. If bama wins, ehhh well they're in the SEC. They're used to big games. If they lose, their fans can shut their cousin loving mouths.
 
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My work takes me up north quite a bit, and when some of them yankees see me wearing my TN gear, they literally can't shut they're mouth about our Vols and in they're words, the SEC is the biggest cheating conference in the college game. Just go up north for awhile and you will might come back with my attitude about the SEC. I'm hoping Bama drives the Tigers through the ground! Especially after all the crap talk the Clemson fans have said about the SEC and the Vols. Ever since RB Feaster took a visit to Knoxville, and Johnson flipped to them, they can't shut they're mouths about it. So yeah I'm going to pull for the best conference in college football. And it's been mentioned quite a few times this bowl about TN almost beating Bama this season. Especially after the smacking they gave the Spartans. So IMO the stronger the conference is, the better the wins look for our Vols or any other SEC school.

I dont have to deal with that so I dont see it your way. Those ppl up there sound jealous and hate everything sec.

I live in the south and tiiiiired of hearing "row tie"......on TN soil.

It would be different if ark, a&m, ms st, lsu was playing for the title......bc in my eyes they arent yearly rivals like bammer and fl. Plus those 2 rivals have been kicking our butt for a long time and i hate it. I hope they lose every game
 

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