Vols hold players only meeting

[Volfan1000]

Milton needs to take some steam off his passes and develop some touch.

 

[Volfan1000]

Ain't no Waffle House big enough

Waffles and Grits ROCK.

 

[bigdaddy]

Milton needs to take some steam off his passes and develop some touch.

Nope

 

[Freak]

Nope

Joe can throw the touch pass, I just think sometimes he resorts to the fastball when it's not necessarily needed. That also gives the receivers less time to adjust if the throw isn't accurate. Heath Shuler talked about it a little bit on the radio this week.

 

[CNCVol88]

I can tell when the kids are not taking it seriously. It starts with JM3. Always dancing in warm ups. I get the excitement of being a starter but humble yourself and take everyday like it’s business and your last. Secondly, I have no idea how many players I counted with their pant belts strap hanging and not strapped up. Was pretty hard to not notice quite Frank. Tighten those belts up and be professional, just because it’s 2023, does not mean we shouldn’t act like grown ass men. I believe this team can get it done. Just come in and take care of business. GBO

Ok boomer.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

When is VN going to have a meeting?

I have a special thread in the queue that will address this.

 

[RockyTop140]

Being a great teammate isn’t the problem . Nobody hates the guy , the problem is he hasn’t developed into what TN needs . He isn’t gonna take the Vols to the next level. I’ll eat my words , gladly , if he proves me wrong . I think everyone in Vol country likes the guy and rooting for him , but there’s a huge question mark that comes along with him.

He still has to prove he can be consistent. We’ll find a lot out this weekend

 

[aRmo]

There are two types of meetings, Meetings that happen when the wheels are falling off, and meetings that happen to get your mind right. This meeting was held after the coaches walked out of the room. Leaders asked the players to stay. This isnt something thats bad.

 

[Volbrando]

Joe can throw the touch pass, I just think sometimes he resorts to the fastball when it's not necessarily needed. That also gives the receivers less time to adjust if the throw isn't accurate. Heath Shuler talked about it a little bit on the radio this week.

I agree... I think adrenaline sometimes gets to him in the moment and then he fires a rocket to get rid of the ball when it's not always needed

 

[Pride85]

I can tell when the kids are not taking it seriously. It starts with JM3. Always dancing in warm ups. I get the excitement of being a starter but humble yourself and take everyday like it’s business and your last. Secondly, I have no idea how many players I counted with their pant belts strap hanging and not strapped up. Was pretty hard to not notice quite Frank. Tighten those belts up and be professional, just because it’s 2023, does not mean we shouldn’t act like grown ass men. I believe this team can get it done. Just come in and take care of business. GBO

To be honest, when Joe Milton is bouncing around during the game it means he is loose and the results usually show it. Same thing when he is in the pocket. If he is bouncing around a little he is relaxed and reading the field. If he stops bouncing and plants both feet, watch out for a high, off target missile because he doesn't follow through. Hendon Hooker bounced around, a lot of times in tandem with JM3. Did it bother you last year?

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

Milton needs to take some steam off his passes and develop some touch.

Can't wait till he takes some velocity off and gets picked. The support will be off the charts. His passes to the field, especially for the touchdowns have been dang near perfect. His perfect big ball that was dropped was not a missile but a rainbow. I do believe some of his fast balls are his way of insuring his target or nobody can get it. I will believe it is a consistent big problem when the risk/reward situation requires touch, not early in the game or when we are backed up and a pick really flips the field.

 

[LittleVol]

I grinned at Thomas repeatedly saying "going out there in the game and having fun" because games may be much easier than practicing under Rodney Garner.

As for the players only meeting, Thomas is a survivor of the Pruitt chaos. He knows what a team in bad shape looks like and feels like.

I saw no sense of hesitation in his voice to talk about the meeting, the unity, the need to keep focus, and the leadership on the team. He didn't seem stressed by the question.

It occurs that the players knew there'd be some "what's going on with this team?" after the APSU game and the leaders wanted to say, in his words, "let's flush that game and move on."

I'm with Omari, let's flush that game and move on.

Sorry, but that's like your lady cheating and then you saying "lets flush it and startover".

There's a reason why THAT happened against AP.
It was:
- environment that day (delay)
- Joe Milton throwing inconsistent
- terrible officiating.
- WR drop balls

How many of those 4 things can coach Heupel fix?

This is an old team that has played bad football before last season.

Coach has to be brave enough to make the right call when necessary. And it's coming.

 

[KeyVol14]

Sorry, but that's like your lady cheating and then you saying "lets flush it and startover".

There's a reason why THAT happened against AP.
It was:
- environment that day (delay)
- Joe Milton throwing inconsistent
- terrible officiating.
- WR drop balls

How many of those 4 things can coach Heupel fix?

This is an old team that has played bad football before last season.

Coach has to be brave enough to make the right call when necessary. And it's coming.

Are you implying he's going to make a QB change?

 

[CNCVol88]

Sorry, but that's like your lady cheating and then you saying "lets flush it and startover".

There's a reason why THAT happened against AP.
It was:
- environment that day (delay)
- Joe Milton throwing inconsistent
- terrible officiating.
- WR drop balls

How many of those 4 things can coach Heupel fix?

This is an old team that has played bad football before last season.

Coach has to be brave enough to make the right call when necessary. And it's coming.

Bro. If we beat Florida on Saturday NO ONE even you is going to care about a sloppy FCS game that doesn't matter in the end.

 

[Vol865]

No matter how it's spun, the fact that this was deemed necessary 2 games into the season is...well...disconcerting.

What would the appropriate number of games be?

 

[Vol737]

Sorry, but that's like your lady cheating and then you saying "lets flush it and startover".

There's a reason why THAT happened against AP.
It was:
- environment that day (delay)
- Joe Milton throwing inconsistent
- terrible officiating.
- WR drop balls

How many of those 4 things can coach Heupel fix?

This is an old team that has played bad football before last season.

Coach has to be brave enough to make the right call when necessary. And it's coming.

These guys need to have a tougher mindset if that delay bothered them at all. I would contend #2 on your list may have had a lot to do with #4. Milton began to press too much on some of the subsequent throws.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Sorry, but that's like your lady cheating and then you saying "lets flush it and startover".

There's a reason why THAT happened against AP.
It was:
- environment that day (delay)
- Joe Milton throwing inconsistent
- terrible officiating.
- WR drop balls

How many of those 4 things can coach Heupel fix?

This is an old team that has played bad football before last season.

Coach has to be brave enough to make the right call when necessary. And it's coming.

It was a terrible loss wasn't it......wait.

If one reads here you'd think this was discussion after GA State. It was W, an odd W, but a W.

Heupel has a list far longer than 4 things to fix, I'm sure, but please tell me where I can subscribe to your coaching newsletter.

Get over yourselves. Josh Heupel is a better QB coach than any of us here and whether "you can see what's going on and don't need to be a QB coach or head coach"...... you aren't remotely qualified to judge Milton's performance compared to Heupel.

 

[Other_Guy]

It was a terrible loss wasn't it......wait.

If one reads here you'd think this was discussion after GA State. It was W, an odd W, but a W.

Heupel has a list far longer than 4 things to fix, I'm sure, but please tell me where I can subscribe to your coaching newsletter.

Get over yourselves. Josh Heupel is a better QB coach than any of us here and whether "you can see what's going on and don't need to be a QB coach or head coach"...... you aren't remotely qualified to judge Milton's performance compared to Heupel.

Nico isn't physically ready and I can't imagine him beint as turnover free as Joe. It's going to have to get really really bad for them to pull Joe.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Nico isn't physically ready and I can't imagine him beint as turnover free as Joe. It's going to have to get really really bad for them to pull Joe.

As has been mentioned, Joe isn't losing.

If we lose Saturday and Heupel thinks it's Joe that's the problem, he's got to weigh Nico's development issues vs Joe's issues.

The reason I'm not pulling my hair out is that I think Heupel is possibly the best coach in the SEC to make that decision if he has to.

I'm not qualified for that. No one else here is either. Lucky for TN, Heupel is. But wait and see, a loss will bring us close to the Volnation curse of "Heupel is not the guy." Just watch.

 

[Other_Guy]

As has been mentioned, Joe isn't losing.

If we lose Saturday and Heupel thinks it's Joe that's the problem, he's got to weigh Nico's development issues vs Joe's issues.

The reason I'm not pulling my hair out is that I think Heupel is possibly the best coach in the SEC to make that decision if he has to.

I'm not qualified for that. No one else here is either. Lucky for TN, Heupel is. But wait and see, a loss will bring us close to the Volnation curse of "Heupel is not the guy." Just watch.

My thoughts are, if Milton plays just OK, even missing guys sometimes BUT everyone else plays well including the WRs catching those tough throws, this team is beating Florida handily and winning a bunch of games.

 

[aRmo]

My thoughts are, if Milton plays just OK, even missing guys sometimes BUT everyone else plays well including the WRs catching those tough throws, this team is beating Florida handily and winning a bunch of games.

This is my thoughts aswell, He wasnt superman in the orange bowl. He played consistent and made the right reads. If he can keep doing that, this is a 9-10 win team.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

My thoughts are, if Milton plays just OK, even missing guys sometimes BUT everyone else plays well including the WRs catching those tough throws, this team is beating Florida handily and winning a bunch of games.

But, but, but..... If he doesn't put up Hooker stats the team sucks

I think our D struggles Saturday, personally, more than our offense. Just a hunch but I'd not be surprised to see FL have success early running the ball.

I think the offense comes out and I think Coach Heupel comes out with something to prove to the naysayers.

 

[KeyVol14]

But, but, but..... If he doesn't put up Hooker stats the team sucks

I think our D struggles Saturday, personally, more than our offense. Just a hunch but I'd not be surprised to see FL have success early running the ball.

I think the offense comes out and I think Coach Heupel comes out with something to prove to the naysayers.

Defense struggling? UF running the ball well?? Based off what?

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Defense struggling? UF running the ball well?? Based off what?

As I said, a hunch. I feel like FL isn't going to want to turn the ball over and will be worried about our secondary making a momentum changing play that kicks our offense into gear.

I think they'll emphasize the run, especially early, and I just have a feeling, no real hard reason, that Napier will pull out a few new wrinkles, maybe some razzle dazzle, and we'll have a hard time getting 3rd down stops early.

 

[Other_Guy]

But, but, but..... If he doesn't put up Hooker stats the team sucks

I think our D struggles Saturday, personally, more than our offense. Just a hunch but I'd not be surprised to see FL have success early running the ball.

I think the offense comes out and I think Coach Heupel comes out with something to prove to the naysayers.

If the defense struggles it will ONLY be because Tim Banks wet the bed. Florida's OL was atrocious against Utah. I expect dump penalties/mistakes to be fixed but they're just not a good team. Mertz can make plays but not with his legs, which is always going to kill Banks.