War in Ukraine

[Septic]

None of that has anything to do with the situation in Ukraine. That's you projecting.

Searching for arguments that will gain traction.

 

[NorthDallas40]

The map says they are winning.

The map had Russia in the Kyiv suburbs two weeks into the war too Moe

 

[volfanhill]

So we can count on you guys for the nation rebuild huh? Trillions. Good to know

Better then what we spend most of our money on. So sure.

 

[Orangeburst]

Believe it or not you and I are not far off here. We are absolutely spending too much here. But it’s our usual wasteful sledge hammer on a finishing nail approach.

I wonder if we had armed Ukraine to the teeth in 2014 if this could have been averted. But Europe was just as feckless in that regard also.

Anybody genuinely outraged at the spending isn’t wrong as far as I’m concerned. “Genuinely” is the key here. Let’s be honest the most vocal protestors in here are no such thing.

I get it..I dont mind the Russian pain..
But get ready for the trillions

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Sounds like they are quite literally telling them they don't want to do that. You can tell by the way they are telling them to leave so that they don't get shelled.

You want this one back? low hanging fruit.

OK, so even if they leave, they still plan on bombing and shelling the places that were just liberated.

 

[Orangeburst]

Better then what we spend most of our money on. So sure.

Can you provide a metric, or is this just feelings?
Is this war causing you money with inflation and higher gas prices or not?
If not then lets spend our way further.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Better then what we spend most of our money on. So sure.

History is going to show this money spent will be the most effective dollars ever spent at deconstructing a geopolitical foe. And the morons basically did it to themselves.

 

[Septic]

OK, so even if they leave, they still plan on bombing and shelling the places that were just liberated.

As long as the Russian orcs are there, of course.

Somehow it's still hilarious to watch you think you have the moral high ground while supporting an invading army under ridiculous pretenses.

Do you still believe in the Nazi narrative? Heck, I think even Putin has abandoned that BS.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I get it..I dont mind the Russian pain..
But get ready for the trillions

I’m not telling you you’re wrong on the sheer amount. Everyone including Europe is treating it like Monopoly money.

 

[VolStrom]

None of that has anything to do with the situation in Ukraine. That's you projecting.

Billions of dollars spent in Ukraine has nothing to do with Biden and how he is riding our economy down the drain?

 

[Septic]

Billions of dollars spent in Ukraine has nothing to do with Biden and how he is riding our economy down the drain?

Those two things are mutually exclusive.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

As long as the Russian orcs are there, of course.

Somehow it's still hilarious to watch you think you have the moral high ground while supporting an invading army under ridiculous pretenses.

Do you still believe in the Nazi narrative? Hack, I think even Putin has abandoned that BS.

How can you call them ridiculous pretenses. There was 8 years of shelling and the Russians are doing the same thing that the US would do if China or Russia was planning on establishing a military alliance with Mexico or Cuba.

 

[Orangeburst]

Never ever want to hear any more talk about deficit spending. Ever.
Justified spending can be justified by anyone.
And how much...for the fourth time is the EU committing? You know their own continent. Nobody answers that

 

[DonjoVol]

Y'all dumb af if you think the government spending gobs in Ukraine would have slowed domestic spending down one red nickle.

The main problem is wasteful spending.

 

[NorthDallas40]

How can you call them ridiculous pretenses. There was 8 years of shelling and the Russians are doing the same thing that the US would do if China or Russia was planning on establishing a military alliance with Mexico or Cuba.

So about that post earlier I said on “genuine” outrage

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Those two things are mutually exclusive.

How can you say that when Biden has a decade long history of business dealings in Ukraine? He's got skin in the game over there, but Main Street America doesn't.

 

[Orangeburst]

I’m not telling you you’re wrong on the sheer amount. Everyone including Europe is treating it like Monopoly money.

How much are they spending?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Never ever want to hear any more talk about deficit spending. Ever.
Justified spending can be justified by anyone.
And how much...for the forth time is the EU committing? You know their own continent? Nobody answers that

I look forward you your rubbing my nose in it dude. I’m quite sure mcdaddio and louder are going to want a piece of that action too so you’re gonna have to play nice and share.

 

[DonjoVol]

Never ever want to hear any more talk about deficit spending. Ever.
Justified spending can be justified by anyone.
And how much...for the forth time is the EU committing? You know their own continent? Nobody answers that

These countries are going to send all these weapons to Ukraine and will not have enough to arm their own militaries.

Zelensky just might get his wish of having a "Big Isreal" or when/if Russia wins then we've done nothing but help arm their military with some of these weapons.

 

[NorthDallas40]

How much are they spending?

I haven’t even looked at Europe’s “investment” here honestly. No idea. And we should not have committed $40B

 

[Septic]

How can you call them ridiculous pretenses. There was 8 years of shelling and the Russians are doing the same thing that the US would do if China or Russia was planning on establishing a military alliance with Mexico or Cuba.

It's a ginned up reason. If you expect anyone to believe that this isn't a land grab and that Putin's some sort of altruistic humanitarian that' looking to liberate the donbas, you're nuts.

 

[NorthDallas40]

These countries are going to send all these weapons to Ukraine and will not have enough to arm their own militaries.

Zelensky just might get his wish of having a "Big Isreal" or when/if Russia wins then we've done nothing but help arm their military with some of these weapons.

Who the hell are they gonna fight Curly? Russia is their primary foe.

 

[Orangeburst]

I look forward you your rubbing my nose in it dude. I’m quite sure mcdaddio and louder are going to want a piece of that action too so you’re gonna have to play nice and share.

I dont mind the pain on this aggression..but by golly let others step up to the plate.
Putin cannot take Ukraine in 6 months, not even a NATO member, but will overcome the Northern flank..come on

 

[NorthDallas40]

It's a ginned up reason. If you expect anyone to believe that this isn't a land grab and that Putin's some sort of altruistic humanitarian that' looking to liberate the donbas, you're nuts.

He’s not nuts. He’s just lying and gaslighting the situation.

 

[DonjoVol]

Who the hell are they gonna fight Curly? Russia is their primary foe.

What I mean to say is if Russia wins then those weapons will be in their hands and not in the hands of your beloved Ukraine.