War in Ukraine

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Orange Tsar declares…..
Russia remains under a continuous curse that brings unending sorrow and tragedy because they deposed and murdered their rightfully appointed Tsar and his family in the 1917 revolution. Everything has went wrong since then.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How many "game changer" weapons have we been hearing about since March? This is like Game Changer #5.
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So many to choose from. How about the one that sunk the Moskva? Or the ones used that forced Russia to retreat from Kyiv? What about the ones that turned a 3 day "special operation" into the deadliest "more than 3 days" war for Russia in this century?

Probably the biggest game changer was the US training Ukraine Spec Ops over the past few years. Just think what they can do once they are in NATO. LOL.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Orange Tsar declares…..
Russia remains under a continuous curse that brings unending sorrow and tragedy because they deposed and murdered their rightfully appointed Tsar and his family in the 1917 revolution. Everything has went wrong since then.
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Ehhh... also, maybe, the concept of having czars in the first place is to blame?

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Also: Putin dirt nap coming.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Orange Tsar declares…..
Russia remains under a continuous curse that brings unending sorrow and tragedy because they deposed and murdered their rightfully appointed Tsar and his family in the 1917 revolution. Everything has went wrong since then.
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A Georgian (Stalin), a Ukrainian Jew (Trotsky) and a guy of mixed lineage (Lenin) were the main ringleaders of that revolution along with some external influences (likely Britain). I wouldn't necessarily call that a movement of the Russian people.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
A Georgian (Stalin), a Ukrainian Jew (Trotsky) and a guy of mixed lineage (Lenin) were the main ringleaders of that revolution along with some external influences (likely Britain). I wouldn't necessarily call that a movement of the Russian people.
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A people can easily suffer for the crimes of their leaders
 
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MontyPython said:
Ehhh... also, maybe, the concept of having czars in the first place is to blame?

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Also: Putin dirt nap coming.
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We ALL have dirt maps coming. But true, Angel of Death is currently fluffing Vlads pillow 😉
As to Tsars in general, between trying to toss out the Golden Horde and to defeat the continuous rebellions on the Boyar class, ancient Musskovy had no alternative to having a strongly autocratic leader if they were to survive as a state. Of course, by 1917, after 300 years of Romanov rule, it was clearly time for reform. But murdering your Emperor was bad enough. Butchering his wife, five children, and every Grand Duke and Duchess they could get their hands on was a heinous crime that set the stage for the century of unending bloodshed that followed (and still continues in the steepes of Ukraine. Violence becomes an acceptable tool of the state
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How many "game changer" weapons have we been hearing about since March? This is like Game Changer #5.
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Don't you find it stunning that Ukraine is even still around? And even more stunning that they are kicking Russia in the nuts on a daily basis? Did you honestly believe in March that Ukraine would still be fighting today?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
They can. But be careful assigning blame to Russian people based on the deeds of their leaders. The same fate can be shared by us here at home given our leaders we've had lately.
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It’s not „blame“ for the Russian people (only a handful of who were even alive when Nicholas II and his family were herded into the Basement „Room of Special Purpose“ in Ekaternberg in 1918. But crimes like that have consequences and echos that continue long after the sound of gunshots fade.
I greatly mourn for the people of Russia, just as I do Ukraine. It is time for this war to STOP.
 
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If they are going to act, they need to be fast and decisive, before russia can harvest the raw materials they just grabbed. Once putler does that he can make new weapons.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
Don't you find it stunning that Ukraine is even still around? And even more stunning that they are kicking Russia in the nuts on a daily basis? Did you honestly believe in March that Ukraine would still be fighting today?
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Russia never wins wars quickly. They grind their opponents down slowly with overwhelming numbers and resources. Rapid victories require logistical prowess and tactical agility which have never been focuses in Tussian/Soviet history.
 
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