War in Ukraine

[Rasputin_Vol]

So when Ukraine defaults on this loan, who is going to be left holding the bag?

US Democrats Urge New $650 Billion IMF Aid on Ukraine War Hit

 

[NorthDallas40]

I'm also pointing out that these are some of the people you apparently listen to. They are leading you astray.

Lulz

 

[NorthDallas40]

Russia just sold vast amounts of oil to India and have a pipeline deal with Pakistan. This isn't about Russia maintaining ties with the "West". It is about them building a Eurasian alliance. I've tried explaining this but you all refuse to listen.

I don’t listen to you because you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

 

[NorthDallas40]

He'd wave off you and the rest of VolNation. He's a multi millionaire so I'm sure there are plenty in this forum that admire him for just for that.

So we’d mutually ignore each other? Sounds wonderful.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I just finished Phantom of the Opera and now reading Dandelion Wine by Ray Bradbury. Not sure how my "illiterate ass" is managing that.

As for politics I would suggest people read The Smallest Minority by Kevin Williamson and Conscience of a Conservative by Barry Goldwater.

Were they picture books curiy?

 

[hog88]

Here is a perfect example of how things are going for Pootin in Ukraine.

Russia will soon be getting military assistance from…

<drum roll>

… the idiot ass incompetent Iranians. Yeah Russia can end this anytime they want they are absolutely not struggling at all.

AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/07/11/iran-drones-russia-ukraine/

When you are supposedly a world power and have to rely on the Iranians for weapons you're doing the whole world power thing wrong.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

You don't understand how a war works, bro.

Russia is getting eviscerated.

They're killing drastically more of our Ukrainian proxy soldiers than the number of Russian, Donetsk Republic, and Lugansk Republic soldiers being killed. The Ukrainians have been completely driven out of the LPR and lose territory in the DPR every day. Even economically, Americans are paying lot more at the pump and Europe's economy is especially damaged. If Russia doesn't turn the gas back on come July 22nd, then Germany and other EU economies are in a day of reckoning. One would've thought the Germans would've learned their lesson in 1945, but like the USA in Iraq and Afghanistan, they're yet again victims of their own hubris.

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[JuicyBrucey]

While cities like Detroit and Oakland continue to have rising crime rates, rising homelessness, and rising cost of living. These homeless encampments are now here in Knoxville too.

Americans hate Vietnamese, Iraqis, Syrians, Afghanis, Russians, and even the Ukrainians we're using to fight the Russians to the last man, more than we ever loved or will ever love our own children. And that's why America is going bankrupt.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

They didn't provide footage of the Ghost of Kiev in air combat this time?

 

[OrangeTsar]

GH was always a fav of mine. Bat 21 was good. I like non fiction

Loved him in Hooziers. The man could totally capture a scene without overacting. A rare gift for an actor

 

[NorthDallas40]

So China and Iran now both turned their backs on Russia.

World pariah. Nice job Putin.

Iran has officially refused to sell UAVs to the Kremlin: the next step is to ask North Korea for missiles

I had posted a link I believe yesterday showing Pootin was pursuing this deal.

That is hilarious Pootin is even a pariah in the pariah club

 

[NorthDallas40]

When you are supposedly a world power and have to rely on the Iranians for weapons you're doing the whole world power thing wrong.

Yep. And as Monty posted today the idiot Russians even got rebuffed by the Iranians on this

 

[NorthDallas40]

They didn't provide footage of the Ghost of Kiev in air combat this time?

Would you settle for a picture of the Black Sea Fleet flagship sinking?

 

[Velo Vol]

Life in a Russian satellite state.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Anybody with common sense can see that Russia hasn't even tried using much of their naval or air power. It has been mostly a ground war at this point. I'd recommend the Military Summary youtube channel as they give daily updates on this conflict.

What makes more sense? Russia hasn't won because they don't want to or Russia hasn't won because they can't? Hell, Russia is begging Iran for help. That must hurt.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

Would you settle for a picture of the Black Sea Fleet flagship sinking?

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And how much territory did we gain since then? We lost what we held in Lugansk. Sure, a lot of our Ukrainian proxies got killed, but we don't care about them. But the territory held by Russia, albeit just 25% or so of the country, produced 80% of Ukraine's GDP in year's past. That's what we care about, we've lost it, and we're not getting it back. We don't care about the Ukrainians killed, but we should all wear black and mourn the fact that Hunter Biden no longer needs a full-sized checked bag, but only a carry on to haul away his ill-gotten laundered money. In a few months, he'll need only a manpurse.

 

[NorthDallas40]

And how much territory did we gain since then? We lost what we held in Lugansk. Sure, a lot of our Ukrainian proxies got killed, but we don't care about them. But the territory held by Russia, albeit just 25% or so of the country, produced 80% of Ukraine's GDP in year's past. That's what we care about, we've lost it, and we're not getting it back. We don't care about the Ukrainians killed, but we should all wear black and mourn the fact that Hunter Biden no longer needs a checked bag, but only a carry on to haul away his ill-gotten laundered money.

“We” held?

 

[tvolsfan]

“We” held?

Think he’s getting his propaganda mixed up.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Think he’s getting his propaganda mixed up.

He’s providing a great example of what this invasion is about from Pootin’s perspective and I’m sure Pootin appreciates the defeatist whining too. I know Moe does.

Fact is Ukraine, not “we”, is 5+ months into a 3 day war and have ground the invading bastards advance nearly to a halt and are starting to retake ground in Kherson. But sure let’s cry about the territory “we’ve” lost thus far

 

[OrangeTsar]

There is a lot to unpack in that. I'm not certain it is as straightforward as it is believed. Britain also had incentive to see both Russia AND Germany defeated.

You are aware that Russia and Britain were ALLIES during WWI and that Britain knew that a Russian defeat would allow Ludendorff to turn every single division he had Westward against the BEF and France, right?

 

[Godfatha]

There is a lot to unpack in that. I'm not certain it is as straightforward as it is believed. Britain also had incentive to see both Russia AND Germany defeated.

Why would Britain want to see Russia out of the war? So the German and Austrian troops on the Eastern front could be moved to the Western front? That makes no sense.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Why would Britain want to see Russia out of the war? So the German and Austrian troops on the Eastern front could be moved to the Western front? That makes no sense.

He loves him some made up truther conspiracies

 

[evillawyer]

What's the old saying about loose lips .....

 

[JuicyBrucey]

“We” held?

Ukraine is ruled by the puppet government we installed in 2014. They're our boys. We adults of the USA are taking many billions of dollars that should've gone to benefit our current generation and our next generation, and we send it to Ukraine instead because we care more about Zelensky than we do about Americans. When young Americans grow up into adulthood and find themselves living a lifestyle much lower than ours, we can tell them all about the "hero" Zelensky and how some very "special" people took priority over them.