War in Ukraine

[allvol123]

Ukraine is ruled by the puppet government we installed in 2014. They're our boys. We adults of the USA are taking many billions of dollars that should've gone to benefit our current generation and our next generation, and we send it to Ukraine instead because we care more about Zelensky than we do about Americans. When young Americans grow up into adulthood and find themselves living a lifestyle much lower than ours, we can tell them all about the "hero" Zelensky and how some very "special" people took priority over them.

Yea, it had nothing to do with the trillions we spent prior to Ukraine.

 

[Septic]

The vast majority of your views that you have stated on here don't match that of the Libertarian Party. Sorry to break it to you.

Unlike you, my partisan leans are guided by personal beliefs - not party narratives. Anyone who votes blindly down party lines or adopts positions on anything based on personal other than beliefs is an idiot. I'm not a democrat, I'm not a republican - but I believe in some of the principals of both. This makes me a leper to both parties who have adopted a with us or against us mentality. Generally, but not always I see the most value in small government, personal freedom and fiscal responsibility.

I voted for Jorgensen because the other two candidates were completely unpalatable - that doesn't make me a Libertarian but given my options, her/their platform was the one I most closely identified with. I'd vote for her again tomorrow. I'll bet she would be sad to know you think I shouldn't because I'm not in lock step with everything Libertarian.

Now, back to my regularly scheduled mockery of your Russia nut hugging.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Ukraine is ruled by the puppet government we installed in 2014. They're our boys. We adults of the USA are taking many billions of dollars that should've gone to benefit our current generation and our next generation, and we send it to Ukraine instead because we care more about Zelensky than we do about Americans. When young Americans grow up into adulthood and find themselves living a lifestyle much lower than ours, we can tell them all about the "hero" Zelensky and how some very "special" people took priority over them.

Lol ok so you’re an acolyte of Ras then. Ok.

It’s this simple. Pootin invaded Ukraine. Ukraine doesn’t want to be a Russia satellite anymore. They are fighting to drive the invaders out. We, Canada, Europe, and even Japan and Australia are assisting via support and lethal aid in them fighting their own fight.

We actually have obligations via the Budapest Memorandum to provide as much.

We are spending too much too fast. But spend we will and it’s going to be the most effective foreign aid we’ve ever spent to deconstruct a geopolitical foe.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

You are aware that Russia and Britain were ALLIES during WWI and that Britain knew that a Russian defeat would allow Ludendorff to turn every single division he had Westward against the BEF and France, right?

That doesn't mean anything. Britain was still clinging on to this idea of controlling the Eurasian continent (Great Game).

 

[JuicyBrucey]

Lol ok so you’re an acolyte of Ras then. Ok.

It’s this simple. Pootin invaded Ukraine. Ukraine doesn’t want to be a Russia satellite anymore. They are fighting to drive the invaders out. We, Canada, Europe, and even Japan and Australia are assisting via support and lethal aid in them fighting their own fight.

We actually have obligations via the Budapest Memorandum to provide as much.

We are spending too much too fast. But spend we will and it’s going to be the most effective foreign aid we’ve ever spent to deconstruct a geopolitical foe.

It's this simple. Donetsk and Lugansk don't want to be part of Ukraine anymore. The Ukrainian government, with assistance from Americans, killed over 10,000 people in those oblasts, including thousands of civilians, from 2014-2021. Americans didn't care when thousands of civilians were getting killed by our puppet Ukrainian government and are only feigning outrage when Russians kill civilians since civilians didn't matter to Americans from 2014-2021. The LPR and DPR are fighting to drive the Ukrainian invaders out and have already successfully done so in the LPR. The Ukrainians are losing ground in Donetsk Republic every day. The Minsk agreement was disregarded, so it seems like the Ukrainians and Americans have no real respect for agreements. Agreements are just like civilian deaths to Americans. They don't matter unless it's convenient for them to matter.

These residents of Mariupol don't seem to disagree with you saying that they should be under Ukrainian government control:

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

It's this simple. Donetsk and Lugansk don't want to be part of Ukraine anymore. The Ukrainian government, with assistance from Americans, killed over 10,000 people in those oblasts, including thousands of civilians, from 2014-2021. Americans didn't care when thousands of civilians were getting killed by our puppet Ukrainian government and are only feigning outrage when Russians kill civilians since civilians didn't matter to Americans from 2014-2021. The LPR and DPR are fighting to drive the Ukrainian invaders out and have already successfully done so in the LPR. The Ukrainians are losing ground in Donetsk Republic every day. The Minsk agreement was disregarded, so it seems like the Ukrainians and Americans have no real respect for agreements. Agreements are just like civilian deaths to Americans. They don't matter unless it's convenient for them to matter.

These residents of Mariupol don't seem to disagree with you saying that they should be under Ukrainian government control:

You are wasting your time giving them interviews from people on the ground in Ukraine. They will call it Russian propaganda.

 

[KB5252]

How many "game changer" weapons have we been hearing about since March? This is like Game Changer #5.

And it has extended the war and limited Russian capabilities costing Russia more time, resources, equipment and life than they believed possible. Perhaps you just don't understand military strategy and countermeasures?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Why would Britain want to see Russia out of the war? So the German and Austrian troops on the Eastern front could be moved to the Western front? That makes no sense.

The Brits were expecting to drag the United States into the fight anyways.

 

[NorthDallas40]

It's this simple. Donetsk and Lugansk don't want to be part of Ukraine anymore. The Ukrainian government, with assistance from Americans, killed over 10,000 people in those oblasts, including thousands of civilians, from 2014-2021. Americans didn't care when thousands of civilians were getting killed by our puppet Ukrainian government and are only feigning outrage when Russians kill civilians since civilians didn't matter to Americans from 2014-2021. The LPR and DPR are fighting to drive the Ukrainian invaders out and have already successfully done so in the LPR. The Ukrainians are losing ground in Donetsk Republic every day. The Minsk agreement was disregarded, so it seems like the Ukrainians and Americans have no real respect for agreements. Agreements are just like civilian deaths to Americans. They don't matter unless it's convenient for them to matter.

These residents of Mariupol don't seem to disagree with you saying that they should be under Ukrainian government control:

LMAO another disciple of Patrick Lancaster

The regions in question are part of the sovereign territory of Ukraine and don’t involve Russia. Period. And no amount of your Pootin sack carrying is going to change that champ. Russia may wind up keeping a chunk of them but they are going to pay an enormous price for doing it and we are more than happy to assist on their self destruction

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

And it has extended the war and limited Russian capabilities costing Russia more time, resources, equipment and life than they believed possible. Perhaps you just don't understand military strategy and countermeasures?

Oh, I have said several times that these weapons will only prolong the conflict, but not change the outcome. So if the outcome is not going to be affected, then they are not game changers.

And I'll add you to the list of people that have no problem with Ukrainians sacrificing their lives for the purpose of the United States to (allegedly) drain Russia dry of blood and treasure. You are admitting that they are simply fodder for our political ambitions.

 

[KB5252]

Oh, I have said several times that these weapons will only prolong the conflict, but not change the outcome. So if the outcome is not going to be affected, then they are not game changers.

And I'll add you to the list of people that have no problem with Ukrainians sacrificing their lives for the purpose of the United States to (allegedly) drain Russia dry of blood and treasure. You are admitting that they are simply fodder for our political ambitions.

No you can add me to the list that respect the Ukrainian people and their right to defend themselves from an INVADING army. And support the countries that provide them with the means to defend themselves from an INVADING military force.

Is the outcome inevitable? It seems you want it to be, but that doesn't make it so.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

LMAO another disciple of Patrick Lancaster

The regions in question are part of the sovereign territory of Ukraine and don’t involve Russia. Period. And no amount of your Pootin sack carrying is going to change that champ. Russia may wind up keeping a chunk of them but they are going to pay an enormous price for doing it and we are more than happy to assist on their self destruction

What Lancaster said was meaningless. What the various residents of Mariupol said was very meaningful. Most residents of Mariupol do not want to be part of Ukraine and the Ukrainian government will never retake that clay no matter how much of your children's future you want to waste on it.

It's going to get especially interesting when Poland jumps in to claim Lviv. Are you going to be cool with that?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

No you can add me to the list that respect the Ukrainian people and their right to defend themselves from an INVADING army. And support the countries that provide them with the means to defend themselves from an INVADING military force.

But you don't respect the people of Donbas from defending themselves from a Kyiv regime that came into power under a coup in 2014 and began attacking them?

Is the outcome inevitable? It seems you want it to be, but that doesn't make it so.

You may not realize this right now, but the very people that are destroying The West with their green agendas, LGBTQ nonsense, and economic debacles are also heavily involved in supporting and agitating this Ukraine conflict. They cannot achieve their long term goals with a country like Russia standing in the way. Because as you are seeing now, they are loosing control of their economic monopoly thanks to their sanction schemes. Now there are parallel SWIFT-like systems being rolled out that will empower countries to not be enslaved by their system. These people cannot be allowed to win in Ukraine. And that includes the majority of leaders here at home... they need to be exposed and fail in their Ukraine project, also. The sooner these people are discredited and run out of power, the better the world would be.

Also, it would be wise to have a strong Russia in place to help counter China. China is a bigger concern, IMO, because they have been far to successful in influencing political leaders here and having them implement CCP modeled system in America. These Manchurian Candidates are successfully destroying this country from the inside out.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

No you can add me to the list that respect the Ukrainian people and their right to defend themselves from an INVADING army. And support the countries that provide them with the means to defend themselves from an INVADING military force.

It seems like Americans have done a complete 180 since the war in Iraq.

Did you respect the Iraqi people and their right to defend themselves from an INVADING army? Did you support Iran when it provided Iraqis with the means to defend themselves from an INVADING military force?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

It's going to get especially interesting when Poland jumps in to claim Lviv. Are you going to be cool with that?

I've already thrown that out there to them. These Ukrainiacs will not say a word if that happens.

But as things develop and drag on, I'm beginning to now wonder if Russia doesn't just take all of Ukraine (maybe allow Hungary to get the SW corner of Ruthenia). I was just thinking east of the Dnieper for most of this time and connecting over to Transnistria. Plus, as you go further into Western Ukraine, you increase the likelihood of insurgencies and making it hard to govern. But at this point, considering the belligerence of Poland and flooding of weapons that have come in for the sole purpose of extending the bloodshed, I'm not sure if Russia wants to risk having Poland even in western Ukraine. Also, the gas pipelines leaving Western Ukraine need to be secured, mainly for them to at the very least keep the lights on in Hungary and Serbia. You allow Poland or a shattered Ukraine state to be left and those pipelines are jeopardized.

 

[NorthDallas40]

What Lancaster said was meaningless. What the various residents of Mariupol said was very meaningful. Most residents of Mariupol do not want to be part of Ukraine and the Ukrainian government will never retake that clay no matter how much of your children's future you want to waste on it.

It's going to get especially interesting when Poland jumps in to claim Lviv. Are you going to be cool with that?

LMAO Poland is gonna invade huh? No I don’t think anybody should be invading Ukraine. Right now that’s only Russia

 

[JuicyBrucey]

For the halftime show of the Alabama game, the Pride of the Southland Band should have flagboys wearing halfshirts, leather pants, and high heels like Zelensky, and have half of them bending over twerking their rumps up and down like Zelensky as the other half of the dudes pony up behind their rumps like Zelensky's buddy in the video, while the actual Zelensky video is being played on the jumbotron. Our fans are so hot and bothered by Zelensky after seeing his twerking video that all of Neyland Stadium would be lathered up for the second half, even if we're down by 40 points.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

For the halftime show of the Alabama game, the Pride of the Southland Band should have flagboys wearing halfshirts, leather pants, and high heels like Zelensky, and have half of them bending over twerking their rumps up and down like Zelensky as the other half of the dudes pony up behind their rumps like Zelensky's buddy in the video, while the actual Zelensky video is being played on the jumbotron. Our fans are so hot and bothered by Zelensky after seeing his twerking video that all of Neyland Stadium would be lathered up for the second half, even if we're down by 40 points.

This post should have perhaps remained a thought. Sounded better in your head right?

 

[NorthDallas40]

This post should have perhaps remained a thought. Sounded better in your head right?

Oh I think it’s perfect and reflects quite well on the posters intelligence

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Oh I think it’s perfect and reflects quite well on the posters intelligence

I was trying to help.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

Zelensky's gay video has even the most conservative American Christians all the way to the most liberal LGBT lathered up and supporting him. That little manlet gets Americans across the political spectrum all lathered up and supporting the underdog.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

This post should have perhaps remained a thought. Sounded better in your head right?

Yeah, sort of like the pregame prayers at Neyland Stadium for Jesus of Nazareth and God to help us win in our invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, only for God and Jesus to do whatever they were doing as we bailed out of there, leaving billions of dollars worth of equipment behind. A Zelensky halftime show couldn't possibly be as pathetic as those priests and rabbis and their failed prayers.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Zelensky's gay video has even the most conservative American Christians all the way to the most liberal LGBT lathered up and supporting him. That little manlet gets Americans across the political spectrum all lathered up and supporting the underdog.

What is this fixation you have on getting lathered up?

 

[JuicyBrucey]

What is this fixation you have on getting lathered up?

Zelensky has us all lathered up. We're willing to send our national treasure to him in an obviously losing effort at the expense of our children because we're absolutely mesmerized by his twerking.

 

[KB5252]

But you don't respect the people of Donbas from defending themselves from a Kyiv regime that came into power under a coup in 2014 and began attacking them?


You may not realize this right now, but the very people that are destroying The West with their green agendas, LGBTQ nonsense, and economic debacles are also heavily involved in supporting and agitating this Ukraine conflict. They cannot achieve their long term goals with a country like Russia standing in the way. Because as you are seeing now, they are loosing control of their economic monopoly thanks to their sanction schemes. Now there are parallel SWIFT-like systems being rolled out that will empower countries to not be enslaved by their system. These people cannot be allowed to win in Ukraine. And that includes the majority of leaders here at home... they need to be exposed and fail in their Ukraine project, also. The sooner these people are discredited and run out of power, the better the world would be.

Also, it would be wise to have a strong Russia in place to help counter China. China is a bigger concern, IMO, because they have been far to successful in influencing political leaders here and having them implement CCP modeled system in America. These Manchurian Candidates are successfully destroying this country from the inside out.

I support them no more or no less than the people in the other areas who did not want to be under Russian thumbs which just happened to be the majority of the population.

I also do not support idiot leftists on the west coast nor idiot rightists in the heart land in their extremists positions. But if any foreign nation were to attck them as an American I would back and fight with my countrymen.


Good God man. The only thing you left off was the earth is flat, 911 was an inside job and flouride in the water supply to keep people passive.