War in Ukraine

[NorthDallas40]

Feel good story of the day. Russia shooting down one of their own $35,000,000 aircraft.

Russia accidentally shoots down their own $36M Su-34 bomber, Ukraine claims

 

[allvol123]

Russia accidentally shoots down their own $36M Su-34 bomber, Ukraine claims

Technically, their families get new white car?

 

[MontyPython]

Hmmm.. Russia culmination or no?

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[MontyPython]

Number one is absolutely false.

There's no way to know this

Yeah that Sun Tzu was an idiot.

 

[Velo Vol]

I am not pro Russia or pro Putin . I am anti sending weapons to corrupt regimes. Never ends well.

See Afghanistan
See Iraq

What do you think is going to happen? Some UKR militia group is going to use them to attack Poland?

 

[WBO]

What do you think is going to happen? Some UKR militia group is going to use them to attack Poland?

Let me get this straight, you're saying that Ukraine, or some militia group inside Ukraine, is eventually going to attack Poland?
Upon what do you base that other than an extrapolation of the actions of people inside two countries (using that term loosely when it comes to Afghanistan) we occupied.

 

[Velo Vol]

Let me get this straight, you're saying that Ukraine, or some militia group inside Ukraine, is eventually going to attack Poland?
Upon what do you base that other than an extrapolation of the actions of people inside two countries (using that term loosely when it comes to Afghanistan) we occupied.

No, I asked trying to get the basis for @rekinhavoc's comparison to those two "countries." They seem quite a bit different to me. Sure there's corruption in Ukraine, but the country isn't largely controlled by militia groups.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Meanwhile... MIC doesn't have to beg for cash and prizes. I'm sure the justification is more global policing in Ukraine and Taiwan...

Congress Grants Pentagon $58 Billion More Than Requested: DOD Report | ZeroHedge

 

[rekinhavoc]

No, I asked trying to get the basis for @rekinhavoc's comparison to those two "countries." They seem quite a bit different to me. Sure there's corruption in Ukraine, but the country isn't largely controlled by militia groups.

We provided weapons for Afghanistan to fight the Russians and we provided Iraq weapons to fight Iran. We ended up fighting both countries and probably some of those same weapons were used against our troops.

 

[tvolsfan]

We provided weapons for Afghanistan to fight the Russians and we provided Iraq weapons to fight Iran. We ended up fighting both countries and probably some of those same weapons were used against our troops.

I’m fairly confident we won’t be fighting Ukraine any time soon.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I’m fairly confident we won’t be fighting Ukraine any time soon.

What about Russia? What if Russia gets a hold of the weapons?

 

[DonjoVol]

On many levels it is difficult to understand the love Ras has for that place. I would say at best, they don’t like black people.

People with white skin aren't the only ones who live in Russia. We've gone over this before.

 

[DonjoVol]

We provided weapons for Afghanistan to fight the Russians and we provided Iraq weapons to fight Iran. We ended up fighting both countries and probably some of those same weapons were used against our troops.

Those weapons and equipment in Afghanistan are now in the hands of the Taliban. And some of the weapons and equipment we sent to Iraq ended up in the hands of ISIS.

Also Saddam used those same weapons and equipment to invade Kuwait.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Those weapons and equipment in Afghanistan are now in the hands of the Taliban. And some of the weapons and equipment we sent to Iraq ended up in the hands of ISIS.

Also Saddam used those same weapons and equipment to invade Kuwait.

Most of their equipment was from the Soviet Union. In fact, almost all of it. They had a few US WW2 tanks (captured from Iran) but I'm 100% sure played almost no role in invading Kuwait..

 

[MontyPython]

SMH.

"Eighteen House Republicans objected to the measure: Reps. Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Dan Bishop (N.C.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Madison Cawthorn (N.C.), Ben Cline (Va.), Michael Cloud (Texas), Warren Davidson (Ohio), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Bob Good (Va.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Morgan Griffith (Va.), Thomas Massie (Ky.), Tom McClintock (Calif.), Mary Miller (Ill.), Ralph Norman (S.C.), Matt Rosendale (Mont.), Chip Roy (Texas) and Jefferson Van Drew (N.J.).

The measure specifically demonstrates support for Finland and Sweden joining NATO — which they applied to do in May — and urges member states to formally support their push to join the alliance."

 

[rekinhavoc]

SMH.

"Eighteen House Republicans objected to the measure: Reps. Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Dan Bishop (N.C.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Madison Cawthorn (N.C.), Ben Cline (Va.), Michael Cloud (Texas), Warren Davidson (Ohio), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Bob Good (Va.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Morgan Griffith (Va.), Thomas Massie (Ky.), Tom McClintock (Calif.), Mary Miller (Ill.), Ralph Norman (S.C.), Matt Rosendale (Mont.), Chip Roy (Texas) and Jefferson Van Drew (N.J.).

The measure specifically demonstrates support for Finland and Sweden joining NATO — which they applied to do in May — and urges member states to formally support their push to join the alliance."

Is the opposition to the measure concern that Putin will escalate if they join?

 

[tvolsfan]

Is the opposition to the measure concern that Putin will escalate if they join?

Maybe that’s the position they will give officially. In reality, they’re just team Putin.

 

[tvolsfan]

On many levels it is difficult to understand the love Ras has for that place. I would say at best, they don’t like black people.

That’s an understatement.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Maybe that’s the position they will give officially. In reality, they’re just team Putin.

We shouldn't be for either country. Both corrupt as Hell.

I wouldn't want to labeled team Zelensky either.

 

[tvolsfan]

 

[tvolsfan]

We shouldn't be for either country. Both corrupt as Hell.

I wouldn't want to labeled team Zelensky either.

Speak for yourself.

I’ll turn against Ukraine and Zelensky when they start invading other countries for no reason.

 

[DonjoVol]

Most of their equipment was from the Soviet Union. In fact, almost all of it. They had a few US WW2 tanks (captured from Iran) but I'm 100% sure played almost no role in invading Kuwait..

The United States played a big role in helping Iraq during the Iraq-Iran War. Just like they helped the "freedom fighters" of Afghanistan in their conflict with the Soviet Union. These are both well documented.

 

[DonjoVol]

Speak for yourself.

I’ll turn against Ukraine and Zelensky when they start invading other countries for no reason.

So you are for Syria and Assad since they have been invaded by Turkey?

 

[rekinhavoc]

Speak for yourself.

I’ll turn against Ukraine and Zelensky when they start invading other countries for no reason.

I do. I can hear your opinion without getting upset.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

That meme says something different than what you intend it to mean. The UK is notorious for propaganda.