War in Ukraine

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utvolpj said:
It's expansion because of expansion
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Not sure what this means
and a NATO/Russia war being supplied by the US. Ukraine is a corrupt laundromat for US politicians which is why you're being told to care and support the action
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I guess that's why Canada/Norway/France/Japan/Australia/New Zealand are invested. To protected Hunter Biden.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Not sure what this means

I guess that's why Canada/Norway/France/Japan/Australia/New Zealand are invested. To protected Hunter Biden.
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NATO expands and Russia responds. It will get worse

Are you trying to argue Ukraine isn't known as a corrupt country? Way more than just a Biden are involved. I'm sure some from those places have interests too
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Then Europe needs to check it then. No need for the US to worry about it. Let them deal with their own neighborhood.
Meanwhile, we have an invasion happening on our own border. How about we deal with that first?
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Not only the invasion but also a drug overdose and homelessness crisis. Plus on top of that you have lawmakers and certain corporations pushing for the Green New Deal, censorship and transhumanism.
 
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utvolpj said:
NATO expands and Russia responds. It will get worse
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NATO expands because it’s obvious Russia can’t be trusted.

Are you trying to argue Ukraine isn't known as a corrupt country? Way more than just a Biden are involved. I'm sure some from those places have interests too
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It is a flawed country with real corruption problems, but that has nothing to do with Western opposition to the invasion. It’s just convenient victim blaming.
 
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utvolpj said:
Oh, we're the good guys. Who has invaded/destroyed/destabilized the most sovereign nations since 2000?
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Did you mistake my support of the NATO alliance with full throated support of US foreign policy over the last 20 years? We can certainly discuss US foreign policy missteps and outright immoral actions. But none of that has anything to do with Ukraine.
 
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WBO said:
Geez guys, get off Double D's back. You guys decry cancel culture but you sure use it a lot.

I have a simple position, "Kill Russians, then kill more Russians."

They supplied Afghan rebels who killed Americans in retaliation for us supplying Afghans in the 80's which was partially in retaliation for them supplying the Vietnamese during that war all going back to Russian fighter pilots dogfighting with American pilots in the Korean War.

Been going on for 70+ years, it's not going to stop any time soon.
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That’s not the issue WBO. This fired off when he wished something so unconscionably vile against Ras’ family. Don’t know if Ras has a daughter, but it was beyond disgusting. Nobody is canceling DD. They’re rightly calling him out.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Did you mistake my support of the NATO alliance with full throated support of US foreign policy over the last 20 years? We can certainly discuss US foreign policy missteps and outright immoral actions. But none of that has anything to do with Ukraine.
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You claimed Russia is the one who can't be trusted yet it's a NATO country wreaking havoc across the globe. It's an interesting take to be sure
 
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utvolpj said:
You claimed Russia is the one who can't be trusted yet it's a NATO country wreaking havoc across the globe. It's an interesting take to be sure
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Well then other countries are free to make defensive alliances if they’re afraid we will invade them.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Did you mistake my support of the NATO alliance with full throated support of US foreign policy over the last 20 years? We can certainly discuss US foreign policy missteps and outright immoral actions. But none of that has anything to do with Ukraine.
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It has everything to do with Ukraine. It shows we have selective outrage when it comes to certain countries (Russia, Iran, China), but allow other countries to bypass these same restrictions (US, UK, Israel, KSA).
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It has everything to do with Ukraine. It shows we have selective outrage when it comes to certain countries (Russia, Iran, China), but allow other countries to bypass these same restrictions (US, UK, Israel, KSA).
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This isn't a thread about selective outrage. It's about Russia's barbaric attempt to annex Ukraine. You're just trying to shift the argument to a discussion where you feel less like a ridiculous propagandist.
 
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tvolsfan said:
This isn't a thread about selective outrage. It's about Russia's barbaric attempt to annex Ukraine
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It isn't barbaric. They are rescuing the people of Donbas from 5 years of Kyiv regime attacks and pushing against NATO putting a proxy right on their border.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It isn't barbaric. They are rescuing the people of Donbas from 5 years of Kyiv regime attacks and pushing against NATO putting a proxy right on their border.
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