War in Ukraine

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LouderVol said:
A feint implies it was never intended to achieve anything but a distraction. But you stated it was intended to bring Ukraine to its knees, that implies real intent.

Sounds like it was a show of force, that admittedly failed, that then turned into a feint to save face. And anyone paying attention knew that feint didnt work because there was no follow up attack to take immediate advantage of the feint. Meaning the show of force turned feint failed a second time.
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volgr said:
You left out a key piece...locked in a slogging proxy war in eastern Ukraine that they are winning. If this ends with Russia holding southern and eastern Ukraine while demilitarizing not only Ukraine but NATO as well, this will be a HUGE win for Russia and yes, they will be emboldened.
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Emboldened for backing off on taking the entire country and settling for a land bridge to Crimea after taking lots of losses, having their military exposed as weak and unorganized, and creating dissension internally about why Putin is doing this?

Emboldened? Really? For doing half the job Putin started out to do at a far larger cost than anticipated? Emboldened?

Holding some parts (some parts ARE ethnically and culturally Russian) of the Ukraine will be an exercise in pain. Think Northern Ireland and the UK and "The Troubles" that went on for 30 years or so with bombings, ambushes, etc.

Emboldened to do what? Inflict more wounds on themselves?
 
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volgr said:
You left out a key piece...locked in a slogging proxy war in eastern Ukraine that they are winning. If this ends with Russia holding southern and eastern Ukraine while demilitarizing not only Ukraine but NATO as well, this will be a HUGE win for Russia and yes, they will be emboldened.
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Riiiiiiiiiight. Now Putin has NATO right on his doorstep with Finland joining, something he was adamant about not happening. Whined an cried worrying about Ukraine wanting to join not long ago, and not look what's happened. Bogged down in Ukraine while his army has suffered tens of thousands of casualties and a massive loss of armor....and now a neighboring country to the north has joined NATO. He remains a master strategist! LOL
 
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volgr said:
They attacked Kiev, they massed a force outside of Kiev, the never made it near the heart of Kiev itself. It now looks like that was more a show of force to try and force a quick Ukrainian surrender.
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Yep. They were driven back. Thats what happens when your military is garbage and your logistics are even worse. Nice spin though. I see you have already forgotten how you said that was a feint and all part of Pootins strategy and Russia had to retreat..lololol.
 
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volgr said:
You left out a key piece...locked in a slogging proxy war in eastern Ukraine that they are winning. If this ends with Russia holding southern and eastern Ukraine while demilitarizing not only Ukraine but NATO as well, this will be a HUGE win for Russia and yes, they will be emboldened.
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Yes, you are right. The U.S., England, France, ect will be demilitarized because of Russia's war in Ukraine. LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!
 
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Russia has the resources, but they do not have the man power. Eventually even the resources will not make a difference. This is stupidity. It's Putin's stupidity. You realize how many russians died when Chernobyl happened? Russia gets the fall out. Now do Zaporizhzhia.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
lol. Its the size of Texas. Its a tiny country. Your Soviet education is showing Ivan.
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Still over 100 countries in the world smaller than Ukraine in area and population. Still bigger than Iraq and Vietnam.

Now be sure you are educated before making yourself look like a fool.
 
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LouderVol said:
A feint implies it was never intended to achieve anything but a distraction. But you stated it was intended to bring Ukraine to its knees, that implies real intent.

Sounds like it was a show of force, that admittedly failed, that then turned into a feint to save face. And anyone paying attention knew that feint didnt work because there was no follow up attack to take immediate advantage of the feint. Meaning the show of force turned feint failed a second time.

I look forward to the next spin.
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Can you dumb that down a bit? I don't think volgr gets it.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Still over 100 countries in the world smaller than Ukraine in area and population. Still bigger than Iraq and Vietnam.

Now be sure you are educated before making yourself look like a fool.
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See..your "I'm not American but trying to hide it" is showing again Ivan!

Got some jokes you can share with your comrades when yall are on online troll patrol:

What is the difference between a smart Russian and a unicorn??
Nothing, neither exist

What did Russians use to light the inside of their houses with before candles?
Electricity
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
By European standards, Ukraine is "big" because countries like Hungary, Belarus, Bulgaria, etc are really tiny. Ukraine is "big" like France or Sweden are "big" for Europe.
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I'm an American. I've been to Ukraine. Ukraine is small by my standards. Ukraine is tiny by Russian "standards".
 
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Velo Vol said:
This war has shown how useless our weapons are against the Russian military. We might as well give it up.
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Not even our newest weapons either. Literally old sh!t we had lying around.. What makes it even funnier is Russia is throwing the kitchen sink at Ukraine to try and gain ground.

( For our communist trolls that means you are trying to use everything you got to win, including bring out 50 year old tanks from storage, trying to increase your military size by using prisoners, etc. )
 
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volgr said:
It was a passenger train being used for military purposes. Ukraine doesn't have a good way to easily and safely move troops in and out of these areas. At one point and probably still are, they were sending their troops in civilian cars/vans in the middle of the night.
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Your claims - much like most of your others - have readily been proven false.

You're nothing more than a Russian sympathizer TASS mouthpiece.

Russia's Claims About the Chaplyne/Chaplino Train Debunked
 
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