War in Ukraine

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DonjoVol said:
Question sources? Perhaps you should tell that to Python, Dallas, Hunger Waffle and Double D as well.

In other words you should be a little more consistent.
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You mean like when I call them out for their Russian casualty numbers? Or show that they have been calling for the defeat of Russia for months.

DD I dont touch cause that guy....
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
What other option do the Germans (or most of Europe for that matter) have outside of cheap, reliable pipeline gas from Russia? LNG from Qatar and the US is expensive and Algeria and Norway have their limits.
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They had nuclear and coal power plants and shut most of them down. I guess windmills and solar were supposed to replace all of that. They did the equivalent of jumping out of a plane and hoping to invent a parachute on the way down.

Industries that need huge volumes of natural gas would probably do better to locate somewhere else.

It required a lot of effort for the Germans to get themselves into this mess.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I still cannot fathom why all of Europe makes themselves dependent on Russia and Pootin for energy and then act shocked when the authoritarian POS extorts them to try and force appeasement of his BS.
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One benefit to all that is the complete vanishing act of the global warming zealots posting asinine memes about how wind and solar are completely powering EU countries without any fossil fuels required.
 
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MG1968 said:
One benefit to all that is the complete vanishing act of the global warming zealots posting asinine memes about how wind and solar are completely powering EU countries without any fossil fuels required.
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I think you just highlighted even more their completely dysfunctional and idiotic energy “policy”. They harp and harp on green green green… but they’re all screwed because Pootin cut off their fossil fuel energy. Hypocritical and idiotic as hell. The entire leadership of all EU countries should be set adrift in the middle of the North Sea in February
 
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LouderVol said:
To be fair the Russians also couldnt find the cave dwellers.

It's amazing, in a thread about a Russian military operation we have so much deflection to the US. There are plenty of other threads to bash our military involvement elsewhere.
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Exactly, which is why they are in the Ukraine. LOL Putin agrees.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Yep. Forefront of our doctrine, own the skies. And the Keystone Cops who invaded Ukraine still haven’t managed it and it’s costing them daily.
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That's interesting. I remember in February and March there was a bunch of s^^t talking about bombing that 40 mile Russian caravan outside of Kyiv and the NATO running their d*cksuckers about a "no fly zone".
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That's interesting. I remember in February and March there was a bunch of s^^t talking about bombing that 40 mile Russian caravan outside of Kyiv and the NATO running their d*cksuckers about a "no fly zone".
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Still salty huh Moe? Sucks to be you I guess.

But let’s check the tape. Looks like your homies got ran off without any need of a no fly zone. As it turns out your Keystone Cop fav military was/is incompetent and got ran off without any help to Ukraine. Pretty pathetic no?
 
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MG1968 said:
That’s because the Translator’s “special military operation” was supposed to be over within a week.
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GWB declared "Mission Accomplished" in 2003 after a month or so in Iraq. How you like them apples right now? Obama ran his mouth about a JV team in Syria. And I'm sure LBJ didn't think some rice farmers would have the US running out of Vietnam a decade later.

And you are busting Russia's chops over 6 months against a NATO armed and trained army in Europe? While the US has been losing over the last 60+ years to 3rd world rice farmers, goatherders and cave dwellers?

You need to take several seats on that nonsense you are talking right now.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
GWB declared "Mission Accomplished" in 2003 after a month or so in Iraq. How you like them apples right now? Obama ran his mouth about a JV team in Syria. And I'm sure LBJ didn't think some rice farmers would have the US running out of Vietnam a decade later.

And you are busting Russia's chops over 6 months against a NATO armed and trained army in Europe? While the US has been losing over the last 60+ years to 3rd world rice farmers, goatherders and cave dwellers?

You need to take several seats on that nonsense you are talking right now.
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Try the extra strength formula for that bad case of redass you got flaring Moe

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Rasputin_Vol said:
GWB declared "Mission Accomplished" in 2003 after a month or so in Iraq. How you like them apples right now? Obama ran his mouth about a JV team in Syria. And I'm sure LBJ didn't think some rice farmers would have the US running out of Vietnam a decade later.

And you are busting Russia's chops over 6 months against a NATO armed and trained army in Europe? While the US has been losing over the last 60+ years to 3rd world rice farmers, goatherders and cave dwellers?

You need to take several seats on that nonsense you are talking right now.
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But what about….

Are you reading your own BS and comprehending how ****ing stupid you sound?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That's interesting. I remember in February and March there was a bunch of s^^t talking about bombing that 40 mile Russian caravan outside of Kyiv and the NATO running their d*cksuckers about a "no fly zone".
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That's interesting I remember a bunch of western death cult propaganda about Russia actually invading Ukraine from that same time. How did that work out for you?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That's interesting. I remember in February and March there was a bunch of s^^t talking about bombing that 40 mile Russian caravan outside of Kyiv and the NATO running their d*cksuckers about a "no fly zone".
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Just to be clear the NATO d*suckers at no time considered a no fly zone in Ukraine. Zalenskiyy requested NATO implement one and d*suckers shot it down (pun intended) immediately. As it turns out it would have been totally unnecessary anyway.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Yes they did, its all a battlefield. The bounds of the battlefield are not determined by you. What you are doing is the same thing the other stupid white people the Red Coats were saying when they eventually left Amercia back in the 1700s.

"King Georgia, they don't fight right"

No real objective was met in Afghanistan + Wasted lives + Wasted resources + broken promises to allies + Eventually couldn't stomach the occupation = LOSERS

"If he is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. "
"Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. "
"There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare. "
"Hence the saying: If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle. "
"To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. "
"Hence the saying: One may know how to conquer without being able to do it. "
"Security against defeat implies defensive tactics; ability to defeat the enemy means taking the offensive."
"By holding out baits, he keeps him on the march; then with a body of picked men he lies in wait for him. "
"You can be sure of succeeding in your attacks if you only attack places which are undefended.You can ensure the safety of your defense if you only hold positions that cannot be attacked. "
"By discovering the enemy's dispositions and remaining invisible ourselves, we can keep our forces concentrated, while the enemy's must be divided. "
"The spot where we intend to fight must not be made known; for then the enemy will have to prepare against a possible attack at several different points; and his forces being thus distributed in many directions, the numbers we shall have to face at any given point will be proportionately few. "
"So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak"

Just a few things from Art of War on this subject.

"All men can see the tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved."

No strategy going in, your army lost and did not achieve anything i.e. failure or lost. Its a all a battlefield. The whole strategy for Osama was to bait the United States into unwinnable wars, he did it with almost no money and a couple of dozen guys.

Just think of how many stupid white people died because of the other stupid white people. for no freaking reason. Rinse and repeat over and over. If you really think about it, its amazing white people still exist, they have been busy sending white people on suicide missions since the time of the crusades.

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We defeated the British on the battlefield. Cornwallis surrendered his forces to the Colonials at Yorktown. He was defeated previously by the Colonial Army at the battle of Cowpens. Now, tell me what specific battles did the Taliban defeat us in? We took their country on the battlefield with ease....then left at our own accord. They aren't good enough to defeat us in a pitched battle. Never happened.
 
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LouderVol said:
You dont have to lose on the battlefield to lose the war.

Doesnt matter that we outgained the taliban. When the clocks struck zero we spent trillions of dollars and thousands of lives to replace the Taliban, with an even better equipped Taliban. That's defeat any which way you look at it. Had the afghani government stuck around or even split the nation with the Taliban we could claim success. But they folded way too fast to say we defeated the Taliban.
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Right, I am talking about a tactical defeat. It was our choice, and our choice alone to lose the conflict in general. Didn't have to happen that way.
 
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