War in Ukraine

[FLVOL_79]

Quite the armor resupply shipment to Ukraine from Russia

Glad to see Pootin helping Ukraine rebuild their military.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Early nomination for feel good story of the day!

Poor Lada..could have been a gift for a fallen soldiers family back in Russia.

 

[FLVOL_79]

If he spoke Russian this guy could fit right in on the above Russian state TV. Complete alt fantasy world.

Tucker Carlson has hitched his wagon to the "I hate Biden so much that I will side with our Enemy" like many yuge Trump fans have.

I have as much disdain for creepy Joe as the next regular guy but ffs people need to get their sh!t together when it comes to what they are willing to do/believe to justify their own opinions.

 

[FLVOL_79]

The Russian intellects here can't seem to decide if the Ukrainian people should be freed from Nazism, or destroyed for being enemy servants of the US.

She reminds me of every Russian hooker I've ever met.

 

[LouderVol]

I'm not a fan of needless death, that's why I'm not in the Western Death Cult.

And yet you still cant call out Russia.

 

[n_huffhines]

 

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[LouderVol]

And again, the catalyst for Donbas wanting to break away was the 2014 coup. How was that Russia's fault?

You mean responsible for the guy they had spetnas helivac out of the country to a mansion and given an extravagant allowance? The same guy who was elected for stated pro west views, who was going to signing a deal with the EU and then suddenly switched to signing with the Russians with no real reasoning or explanation?

Yeah I cant think of any reason why the Ukrainian people would feel betrayed and want him gone.

 

[MontyPython]

Not when you have Russian people being attacked[/B] and the threat of NATO moving in military assets to your border... not to mention the potential loss of their Crimean port to a hostile regime in Kyiv. All of these things played a factor. You know this, but chose to ignore the justifications knowing good and damn well that we would behave in the same manner (likely in a far worse/more destructive manner) if the US saw similar threats emerge in Mexico or Cuba. Hell, you got people here that want to take military action on countries like Nicaragua, Venezuela and Equatorial Guinea (in Africa) for getting to close and cozy with China and Russia.

Stopped at 1st sentence.

If a person lives permanently in Ukraine, they're Ukrainian, not Russian.

Period.

Russia was not "protecting its citizens" when it invaded Ukraine, it attacked Ukrainians in their sovereign country.

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[Rasputin_Vol]

Ramzan Kadyrov

All strategic positions occupied in the Zaporozhye region are under the strict control of the Akhmat special forces. This is reported by my dear BROTHER, the commander of the OMON "Akhmat-Grozny" of the RF FSVNG for the Chechen Republic Anzor Bisaev.
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Our fighters control absolutely all the occupied points, carry out high-quality interaction with their colleagues from other military formations and smash the Ukrofascist Bandera and foreign mercenaries.
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We have no doubts about the fighting qualities of our guys. They have already shown themselves excellently during the liberation of Mariupol, Lisichansk and other large cities and towns. At this stage, the fighters of the Akhmat special forces are only waiting for an order to advance into battle.
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I wish the guys further success in the course of the special military operation! AHMAT-POWER!

 

[MontyPython]

Thanks for wasting US tax dollars on this crap? Yeah, fjb

Shades of Neville Chamberlain. How'd that whole Hitler appeasement thing work out?

That's what I thought.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Shades of Neville Chamberlain. How'd that whole Hitler appeasement thing work out?

That's what I thought.

Everything doesn't automatically equate to WWII.

 

[hog88]

Shades of Neville Chamberlain. How'd that whole Hitler appeasement thing work out?

That's what I thought.

Dumb as crap comparison.

 

[MontyPython]

Everything doesn't automatically equate to WWII.

Putin is a bully.

You got 2 choices with a bully: Cower to him or punch him in the nose.

Obvious which one you'd do.

 

[utvolpj]

Shades of Neville Chamberlain. How'd that whole Hitler appeasement thing work out?

That's what I thought.

Europe got decimated. Maybe they should learn your unrelated lesson and start picking up the slack. We're broke

Of course had cooler heads prevailed before and after ww1 there would have been no Hitler. Hmmm

 

[MontyPython]

Dumb as crap comparison.

Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[hog88]

Putin is a bully.

You got 2 choices with a bully: Cower to him or punch him in the nose.

Obvious which one you'd do.

We're not being threatened by the bully, Europe is. Europe should be footing the bill to punch the bully in the nose.

 

[MontyPython]

Europe got decimated. Maybe they should learn your unrelated lesson and start picking up the slack. We're broke

Of course had cooler heads prevailed before and after ww1 there would have been no Hitler. Hmmm

America tried to remain neutral in WWII. How'd that work out (hint: Dec. 7, 1941).

 

[MontyPython]

We're not being threatened by the bully, Europe is. Europe should be footing the bill to punch the bully in the nose.

Hogg, why do you say such ignorant things. My God.

Are you really clueless about the origins of both WWI and WWII? Did you miss out on the whole Cold War w USSR from the 40s through the 80s?

Come on man

 

[hog88]

Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.

You might try to learn some history before making anymore idiotic comparisons like that one.

 

[hog88]

Hogg, why do you say such ignorant things. My God.

Are you really clueless about the origins of both WWI and WWII?

Not hardly but it's apparent that you are. We we're not even close to "trying to stay neutral" during the onset of WWII.

 

[utvolpj]

America tried to remain neutral in WWII. How'd that work out (hint: Dec. 7, 1941).

neutral? The us was supplying arms. Sounds familiar

Why do you switch between Hitler and Japan?

Again, if you're so concerned with history go to the true cause. You're over 2 decades too late

 

[MontyPython]

You might try to learn some history before making anymore idiotic comparisons like that one.

So what you seem to be insinuating is that while Germany was a threat to us in WWI and WWII, today's nuclear-armed Russia is not a threat.

Got it.

 

[LouderVol]

Not when you have Russian people being attacked and the threat of NATO moving in military assets to your border... not to mention the potential loss of their Crimean port to a hostile regime in Kyiv. All of these things played a factor. You know this, but chose to ignore the justifications knowing good and damn well that we would behave in the same manner (likely in a far worse/more destructive manner) if the US saw similar threats emerge in Mexico or Cuba. Hell, you got people here that want to take military action on countries like Nicaragua, Venezuela and Equatorial Guinea (in Africa) for getting to close and cozy with China and Russia.

1. They were attacked because they at best rebelled and at worst actively helped the Russians invade sovereign Ukrainian territory.
2a. NATO already had assets on the Russian border.
2b. Ukraine tried to join NATO in 2002 and was no where closer to really joining, just like Finland and Sweden.
2c. Unlike Russia NATO doesnt need ukraine to place assets to reach its enemies
3. This argument still makes no sense, because the russians apparently fear NATO on Russian borders, but doesnt fear Russia on NATO borders.
4. It further flies in the face of the supposed nonchalantedness of the acceptance of Finalnd joining NATO. So does it matter about NATO or not?
5. As history has always shown a war fought to avoid future war always fails, never achieved its goal, causes destabilization and future conflicts. Something the Russians didnt learn.
6. That Crimean port was never under threat. That was just Russian fesr mongering, like Ukraine joining NATO. It's technically possible, but not probably and nothing was going on to threaten it.
7. Mexico and Canada have both removed/limited certain ports from our military shipping. Same with airports. We havent invaded them. Similar issues are arising in the Artic Ocean on Canadas border, and the US isnt doing anything to limit or control Canada's sovereignty over that water way. And the Artic is far more economically important than the back water Black Sea. Just ask the russians they know about the Artic.
8. I havent seen anyone arguing to invade those countries on this Forum. And really the only thing I have seen even discussed is that those countries are going to get hosed just like the Sri Lankans.