War in Ukraine

[MontyPython]

Europe got decimated. Maybe they should learn your unrelated lesson and start picking up the slack. We're broke

BTW, newsflash: We're the wealthiest country in the world. So when you talk about being broke, I guess you're just referring to your own impecunity.

 

[hog88]

So what you seem to be insinuating is that while Germany was a threat to us in WWI and WWII, today's nuclear-armed Russia is not a threat.

Got it.

Germany declared war on us, Russia hasn't. No they are not a military threat to us because nobody is launching ICBMS.

 

[utvolpj]

BTW, newsflash: We're the wealthiest country in the world. So when you talk about being broke, I guess you're just referring to your own impecunity.

Printing money doesn't make someone solvent or wealthy. We don't even make our own meds

Not our fight. Don't steal my money and send it to some corrupt shithole your kids use to launder their money

 

[hog88]

BTW, newsflash: We're the wealthiest country in the world. So when you talk about being broke, I guess you're just referring to your own impecunity.

When you are over a trillion dollars in debt you are broke.

Prior to March 1941 our allies actively fighting Germany and Japan had to purchase (with hard currency no credit) all war material they got from us. They also had to transport it from here to wherever they were sending it, couldn't even go on US flagged vessels. We should be doing the same now.

 

[MontyPython]

Not hardly but it's apparent that you are. We we're not even close to "trying to stay neutral" during the onset of WWII.

Heh. Read up and learn something today, bro. America was formerly neutral until September, 1940. WWII started in 1939 dude.

Neutrality Acts of the 1930s

 

[hog88]

Heh. Read up and learn something today, bro. America was formerly neutral until September, 1940. WWII started in 1939 dude.

Neutrality Acts of the 1930s

LOL that wasn't worth the paper it was written on. Neutral would imply that we would sell war material to any party or refuse to sell war material to any involved party.

 

[MontyPython]

When you are over a trillion dollars in debt you are broke.

Prior to March 1941 our allies actively fighting Germany and Japan had to purchase (with hard currency no credit) all war material they got from us. They also had to transport it from here to wherever they were sending it, couldn't even go on US flagged vessels. We should be doing the same now.

LMAO.

So you've unilaterally declared America is now "broke".

Bummer man.

Also: 100% poppycock, of course.

 

[MontyPython]

Printing money doesn't make someone solvent or wealthy. We don't even make our own meds

Not our fight. Don't steal my money and send it to some corrupt shithole your kids use to launder their money

It's called "taxes" Bubba. Don't like em? Move elsewhere.

 

[utvolpj]

It's called "taxes" Bubba. Don't like em? Move elsewhere.

It's called waste. Call it what you want but much of the spending is useless and does not benefit the actual taxpayers. Ukraine is a perfect example of the waste from corrupt politicians who are bought and paid for

 

[hog88]

LMAO.

So you've unilaterally declared America is now "broke".

Bummer man.

Also: 100% poppycock, of course.

Take a history class.

Before passage of the Neutrality Act of 1939, Roosevelt persuaded Congress to allow the sale of military supplies to allies like France and Britain on a “cash-and-carry” basis: They had to pay cash for American-made supplies, and then transport the supplies on their own ships.

Lend-Lease Act

 

[MontyPython]

LOL that wasn't worth the paper it was written on. Neutral would imply that we would sell war material to any party or refuse to sell war material to any involved party.

You're wrong again in both theory and principle. And don't forget the American populous as a whole was also very anti-war and had no desire whatsoever to do it again in Europe.

Pearl Harbor changed that instantly.

 

[hog88]

You're wrong again in both theory and principle. And don't forget the American populous as a whole was also very anti-war and had no desire whatsoever to do it again in Europe.

Pearl Harbor changed that instantly.

You really need to crack open a book every now and then.

 

[MontyPython]

It's called waste. Call it what you want but much of the spending is useless and does not benefit the actual taxpayers. Ukraine is a perfect example of the waste from corrupt politicians who are bought and paid for

Ukrainians fighting and winning against Russia absolutely is to our nation's benefit.

Forest. Trees.

Hang in there.

 

[utvolpj]

You're wrong again in both theory and principle. And don't forget the American populous as a whole was also very anti-war and had no desire whatsoever to do it again in Europe.

Pearl Harbor changed that instantly.

Was it over when the Germans bombed pearl harbor?

 

[utvolpj]

Ukrainians fighting and winning against Russia absolutely is to our nation's benefit.

Forest. Trees.

Hang in there.

No it's in the interest of Europe. We aren't being threatened except by our entanglements

 

[evillawyer]

So many slippery things people fall off of in Russia

 

[LouderVol]

Shades of Neville Chamberlain. How'd that whole Hitler appeasement thing work out?

That's what I thought.

The brits, nor the french, were not ready to fight in 1936 or 38. At least not on the ground.

 

[LouderVol]

Hogg, why do you say such ignorant things. My God.

Are you really clueless about the origins of both WWI and WWII? Did you miss out on the whole Cold War w USSR from the 40s through the 80s?

Come on man

Enveloping alliances that drug in big countries?

 

[evillawyer]

When did James Franco sign up for service?

 

[MontyPython]

No it's in the interest of Europe. We aren't being threatened except by our entanglements

... and you could have said the exact same thing right before both WWI and WWII.

And just for sh*ts and giggles, was all that money we taxpayers spent during the 40+ year Cold War with USSR... was all that money just a waste too?

Was USSR a threat... yes or no?

 

[utvolpj]

So many slippery things people fall off of in Russia

Doppelganger of secretary petey

 

[LouderVol]

... and you could have said the exact same thing right before both WWI and WWII.

And just for sh*ts and giggles, was all that money we taxpayers spent during the 40+ year Cold War with USSR... was all that money just a waste too?

Was USSR a threat... yes or no?

Was our invasion of the USSR worth it? Was that money and lives well spent?

 

[MontyPython]

The brits, nor the french, were not ready to fight in 1936 or 38. At least not on the ground.

I think it's fair to say that nobody *wanted* to go back to war. But the policy of attempting to appease a ruler who clearly had imperialistic ambitions failed. Failed badly.

Fast forward from 1939 to now, and here we are again. We can either appease Putin and just let him take Ukraine or whatever land he wants, or we can fight.

 

[MontyPython]

Was our invasion of the USSR worth it? Was that money and lives well spent?

Wait. What?

We invaded USSR?

Ummmmm....

 

[utvolpj]

... and you could have said the exact same thing right before both WWI and WWII.

And just for sh*ts and giggles, was all that money we taxpayers spent during the 40+ year Cold War with USSR... was all that money just a waste too?

Was USSR a threat... yes or no?

And I would've. Ww1 was an absolute useless cluster and the reason we fought ww2 in Europe. Short sighted foreign policy gets us in these messes. Stop advocating for more