War in Ukraine

[TVOLS]

PHOTOS: Zelenskyy visits liberated city on the front lines of the war Putin started but has never been anywhere near (msn.com)

 

[LSU-SIU]

Them TALKING about joining NATO doesnt violate the agreement. Heck even them joining NATO wouldnt violate the agreement. You are literally just making stuff up.

Yes it does, its called working in "good faith". What kind of business are you in? LOL

Good faith (law)

But this won't go to a court of law, it will be worked out with bombs.

 

[DonjoVol]

But it’s ok if Putin tramples on Ukraine’s front lawn because your neighbor’s dog took a big **** in your wife’s geraniums.

Let me make it simple and hopefully easy for you to understand. Russia isn't my yard and Ukraine isn't either. We have more important problems here in the United States that need our attention.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Graham, Blumenthal call for Russia to join list of state sponsors of terrorism, say crimes are 'genocide'

I don't think this will do anything but back Putin more into a corner. He is already as far back in it as you can go. His military is a joke and his dreams have been shattered. That is why he is scary right now. No telling what he will do.

 

[TVOLS]

NATO should prepare for all-out war with Russia as Putin grows desperate amid Ukraine victories: ex NATO brass (msn.com)

 

[LouderVol]

Yes it does, its called working in "good faith". What kind of business are you in? LOL

Good faith (law)

But this won't go to a court of law, it will be worked out with bombs.

Again. Ukraine joining NATO, or a general expansion of NATO see Finland and Sweden, are not part of the agreement. Thus there is no bad faith argument or any other argument to justify Russia's invasion.

I am in the type of business that actually understands what is in the contracts I sign and the type that doesnt rely on vague assumptions of things not even in the contract.

Russia is paranoid: An unrealistic distrust of others or a feeling of being persecuted.

 

[FLVOL_79]

NATO should prepare for all-out war with Russia as Putin grows desperate amid Ukraine victories: ex NATO brass (msn.com)

Meh. Don't think NATO has to do much preperation..they just need to show up. Its evident Russia can't do sh!t against non soviet weapons and western trained soldiers.

 

[MG1968]

Let me make it simple and hopefully easy for you to understand. Russia isn't my yard and Ukraine isn't either. We have more important problems here in the United States that need our attention.

I agree. But the US invasion of Grenada shouldn’t be the ground you and others stand on to justify Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

In fact, I don’t think I’ve read any criticism of Putin by you, Ras, volgr, LSUSIU, etc. it’s just a litany if the perceived sins of the West against the Holy War being exercised by Russia.

 

[FLVOL_79]

PHOTOS: Zelenskyy visits liberated city on the front lines of the war Putin started but has never been anywhere near (msn.com)

To be fair Pootin knows he would be fragged faster than he could say "I've gotten this many generals killed" as soon as he stepped foot anywhere near the action.

Hope he tries to one up Zelensky now though.

 

[NCFisher]

Sounds like they too have over the top pundits who want to make outrageous statements just to grab headlines.

You and I should just admit our Nazism.

Say - have you tried Der Volk Creamery's new Swastika Strawberry gelato?

 

[FLVOL_79]

I agree. But the US invasion of Grenada shouldn’t be the ground you and others stand on to justify Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

In fact, I don’t think I’ve read any criticism of Putin by you, Ras, volgr, LSUSIU, etc. it’s just a litany if the perceived sins of the West against the Holy War being exercised by Russia.

Says all you need to know about the comrades behind those keyboards.

Doing it for the taters!

 

[FLVOL_79]

You and I should just admit our Nazism.

Say - have you tried Der Volk Cematorium Creamery's new Swastika Strawberry gelato?

fyp

 

[LouderVol]

Speaking is said Paranonia it just hit me, Russia hasnt actually been invaded since NATO became a thing in 1949. That is 73 years. 73 years is a lot longer interval of invasions of Russia than there has been in a long time, especially meaningful since it was actually many of the signers that were invading Russia previously.

Germany in 1945 (4 years)
The US, France, and Britain in 1919 (26 years)
Germany and Hungary (astro hungary) 1916, after Russia's invasion of East Prussia failed. (3 years)
Poland, literally every decade from 1916 back to 1834.
Turkey, france, and UK, in 1853.
France and Poland, under Napoleon in 1812 (21 years)
There there are the various Northern wars and Prussian wars going back to the 1700s.

As backwards as it sounds NATO is actually, factually, keeping Russia safer than it ever has been before. Russia can complain about it being a knife to the throat, but that's a knife that has been kept out of Russia, the first and only time that has happened. At any other point in time Russia would have faced at least 3 more wide spread invasions by at least one member of NATO.

I was saying paranoia a little tongue in cheek, but it's simply the truth. They see a knife, but really it's been a shield. For both them and the west.

 

[DonjoVol]

I agree. But the US invasion of Grenada shouldn’t be the ground you and others stand on to justify Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

In fact, I don’t think I’ve read any criticism of Putin by you, Ras, volgr, LSUSIU, etc. it’s just a litany if the perceived sins of the West against the Holy War being exercised by Russia.

I have been critical and so far I'm the only one who mentioned their treatment of Jehovah Witnesses.

Second. I have also called out the fascist regime of Ukraine and Zelensky. He is no better than Putin. And as much as you and others claim Russia wants Ukraine under than thumb NATO and the U.S. wants Ukraine under their thumb even more.

And guess who I don't hear being critical of fascist Zelensky. You, Dallas, Septic, Python, Ape, Hunger Waffle, FL Vol, Velo, etc. It's been proven he is running a fascist regime yet you guys don't say a word about it. Not one single criticism and one single word.

 

[MG1968]

I have been critical and so far I'm the only one who mentioned their treatment of Jehovah Witnesses.

Second. I have also called out the fascist regime of Ukraine and Zelensky. He is no better than Putin. And as much as you and others claim Russia wants Ukraine under than thumb NATO and the U.S. wants Ukraine under their thumb even more.

And guess who I don't hear being critical of fascist Zelensky. You, Dallas, Septic, Python, Ape, Hunger Waffle, FL Vol, Velo, etc. It's been proven he is running a fascist regime yet you guys don't say a word about it. Not one single criticism and one single word.

Zelensky probably isn’t a good guy, but he’s also not the aggressor here.

Besides, we tried this with Assad in Syria and Ras practically tripped over his own d*** crying about how Assad was democratically elected and that rumors of his use of chemical weapons against his own people were just CIA false flag operations. In fact, Ras cheered when Russia put boots on the ground in Syria in an effort to prop up Assad.

 

[Velo Vol]

This war could have been avoided if Ukraine would have only negotiated!!!

Vladimir Putin's chief envoy on Ukraine told the Russian leader as the war began that he had struck a provisional deal with Kyiv that would satisfy Russia's demand that Ukraine stay out of NATO, but Putin rejected it and pressed ahead with his military campaign, according to three people close to the Russian leadership.

The Ukrainian-born envoy, Dmitry Kozak, told Putin that he believed the deal he had hammered out removed the need for Russia to pursue a large-scale occupation of Ukraine, according to these sources. Kozak's recommendation to Putin to adopt the deal is being reported by Reuters for the first time.
. . .
But, despite earlier backing the negotiations, Putin made it clear when presented with Kozak's deal that the concessions negotiated by his aide did not go far enough and that he had expanded his objectives to include annexing swathes of Ukrainian territory, the sources said. The upshot: the deal was dropped.

 

[apevol]

This war could have been avoided if Ukraine would have only negotiated!!!

posted earlier. was instantly dismissed because the aide is ukrainian and wasn't available for comment

 

[MG1968]

posted earlier. was instantly dismissed because the aide is ukrainian and wasn't available for comment

Did he mysteriously fall out of a hospital window?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Again. Ukraine joining NATO, or a general expansion of NATO see Finland and Sweden, are not part of the agreement. Thus there is no bad faith argument or any other argument to justify Russia's invasion.

Yes it is. Finland and Sweden have nothing to do with it. LOL

I am in the type of business that actually understands what is in the contracts I sign and the type that doesnt rely on vague assumptions of things not even in the contract.

Russia is paranoid: An unrealistic distrust of others or a feeling of being persecuted.

Good faith comes in as parties must work together to complete the agreement. You said they had no intention of living under the thumb of Russia but that is exactly what they agreed to do. The other party can't wait till the actual breach but the breach had already occurred i.e. not neutral. You can disagree with that point of view, but that doesn't mean anything.

Its not vague at all... they should remain neutral and not seek nukes. You are admitting they did not in good faith try and comply with the agreement. Its not complex. Why do you think they have all this US intelligence, weapons, etc.... they weren't neutral.

Look you can get mad, and upset but nothing is going to change.

Russia is paranoid: An unrealistic distrust of others or a feeling of being persecuted.

As they should be, see NATO. LOL There is no reason to trust anyone especially NATO, see last 30+ years of nonsense.

Don't worry Germany will be the next to pay, they already are.... nobody is going to care about them. Crocodile tears are not going to change anything.

Now onward to the economic war in Europe. You really don't care about any of these stupid people anyhow. Russia doesn't even need a reason (although I believe they do), see United States invasions, bombings, supply arms for proxies, etc. over the last 30 years. An American trying to tell foreigners how to determine when to engage in warfare is kind of funny.

As I mentioned previously, your comments make very little sense... most of your posts are contrary to other statements.

At the end of the day, its not our business nor the United States... supplying them arms and money just further shows the proxy war that was occurring prior to 2022.

 

[apevol]

Did he mysteriously fall out of a hospital window?

Six months on from the start of the war, Kozak remains in his post as Kremlin deputy chief of staff. But he is no longer handling the Ukraine dossier, according to six of the sources who spoke to Reuters.


"From what I can see, Kozak is nowhere to be seen," said one of the six, a source close to the separatist leadership in eastern Ukraine.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[Septic]

There you go... You've met your quota for the day.

You should A) stop using them and B) basking in the glory of getting called out for using them.

Seriously. It takes away from us thinking you're dumb and gives unequivocal proof of it.

 

[LouderVol]

Yes it is. Finland and Sweden have nothing to do with it. LOL



Good faith comes in as parties must work together to complete the agreement. You said they had no intention of living under the thumb of Russia but that is exactly what they agreed to do. The other party can't wait till the actual breach but the breach had already occurred i.e. not neutral. You can disagree with that point of view, but that doesn't mean anything.

Its not vague at all... they should remain neutral and not seek nukes. You are admitting they did not in good faith try and comply with the agreement. Its not complex. Why do you think they have all this US intelligence, weapons, etc.... they weren't neutral.

Look you can get mad, and upset but nothing is going to change.



As they should be, see NATO. LOL There is no reason to trust anyone especially NATO, see last 30+ years of nonsense.

Don't worry Germany will be the next to pay, they already are.... nobody is going to care about them. Crocodile tears are not going to change anything.

Now onward to the economic war in Europe. You really don't care about any of these stupid people anyhow. Russia doesn't even need a reason (although I believe they do), see United States invasions, bombings, supply arms for proxies, etc. over the last 30 years. An American trying to tell foreigners how to determine when to engage in warfare is kind of funny.

As I mentioned previously, your comments make very little sense... most of your posts are contrary to other statements.

At the end of the day, its not our business nor the United States... supplying them arms and money just further shows the proxy war that was occurring prior to 2022.

Post this agreement you think exists. Because living under Russia was no where in the one I posted.

 

[MontyPython]

Ukraine getting mighty close to Kherson (~20kms). Well within range of 777s w/excalibur shells even.

In the Kherson Region, the Ukrainian Armed Forces de-occupied the village of Kiselyvka. Today, the only settlement that separates the Ukrainian military from Kherson is Chornobayivka, said Samoilenko, head of the regional council.

 

[evillawyer]

Gonna make our resident Putinistas bigly sad.