War in Ukraine

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LSU-SIU said:
But they're not a slave to the United States. LoL Oh yeah, they're sovereign. What do you think the United States is doing, they're launching economic wars via Bretton Woods II. Even on their "friends".

You actually think the Euro Zone is better, they're going to be slave no matter what they do unless they go full North Korea.

What the world has figured out is all of them are slaves.
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You're less likely to fall out of a window being under the west's thumb than you are under Putin's.
 
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hog88 said:
You're less likely to fall out of a window being under the west's thumb than you are under Putin's.
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You are less likely to be directly bombed by the United States if you do what they tell you or in the alternative, cut off from the global banking system.

This is their problem at the end of the day, if they want to fight... that's okay too.
 
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hog88 said:
He would control and dictate every move Ukraine and it's citizens make. He would rob them blind just like he has done with his own country.
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You don't know much about the Ukraine bro. LoL Its literally the capital of heads of state ripping off the people. I know that from personal experience in a round about way.

At the end of the day, if they want to fight... fine by me, but its not really going to change anything. Its up to them, but you don't know a freaking thing about that region if you think the Ukraine isn't the corruption capital of world.
 
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bcmbvol said:
Do you mean to imply that I am actually pro Putin?
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That's how it works here apparently if you don't agree with the official Military Industrial Complex/Neocon narrative.

Even if you specifically tell them over 2 dozen times that you are not pro-Russia or pro-Putin, like I have done, they will still accuse you of it.
 
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bcmbvol said:
Agreed. I had many people in Kiev tell me that Russia could be there in four days if they wanted to, and they were sort of resigned to that. If we weren’t supplying them and egging them on it would have been over already. A lot less people would have died.
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Another MFkng egg post.
 
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hog88 said:
Or don't invade your neighbor unprovoked.
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Seriously bro, you have American troops in Syria right now. You need to start speaking with some type of thought process.

Basically, what you are really saying is... the United States is the slave master... but that is okay as long as you do what they tell you. Even under Putin (if what you say is correct), that's probably just as correct. LoL

If they want to fight, nothing wrong with that.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
You don't know much about the Ukraine bro. LoL Its literally the capital of heads of state ripping off the people. I know that from personal experience in a round about way.

At the end of the day, if they want to fight... fine by me, but its not really going to change anything. Its up to them, but you don't know a freaking thing about that region if you think the Ukraine isn't the corruption capital of world.
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I do know that Ukraine is corrupt. However it is just slightly less corrupt than the Putin regime in Moscow. I put Ukrainian corruption at slightly worse than our governments corruption which is still miles behind Putins.
 
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hog88 said:
I do know that Ukraine is corrupt. However it is just slightly less corrupt than the Putin regime in Moscow. I put Ukrainian corruption at slightly worse than our governments corruption which is still miles behind Putins.
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How do you know that? Put it down on a piece of paper, send it the Ukraine. If they want to fight, let'em fight. But no, I would probably rather live in Russia, but that is just me. LoL

Either way they are going to be slaves.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Ukraine is trying to fix their corruption. Russia is trying to make sure they don’t. Can’t have another post Soviet success story.
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Yeah, they have been trying to fix it for 30 years, now they have $10s of billions coming through without accountability. Good luck with all that.. LoL
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Seriously bro, you have American troops in Syria right now. You need to start speaking with some type of thought process.

Basically, what you are really saying is... the United States is the slave master... but that is okay as long as you do what they tell you. Even under Putin (if what you say is correct), that's probably just as correct. LoL

If they want to fight, nothing wrong with that.
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Yes, we do put pressure on our allies to do what we want them to do. Yes we have troops in Syria right now but they are not there in a war of conquest but I still believe they need to be removed. Yes, our skirts are far from clean but our wrongs do not give Putin justification for his.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
How do you know that? Put it down on a piece of paper, send it the Ukraine. If they want to fight, let'em fight. But no, I would probably rather live in Russia, but that is just me. LoL

Either way they are going to be slaves.
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I think non Russians have clearly had enough of living under Russia’s thumb. As evidenced by pretty much the direct actions of the entire eastern bloc outside of Russia proper.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Oh it’s a spot on inference. I’ll leave it up to you to reconcile your Putin view statement and posting history inconsistencies
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Ok strictly on the basis of logic, I declared that I do not support Putin (or war in general), so your statement of the opposite is a strawman. You’ve also committed a false choice fallacy in erroneously limit the number of possible positions on the issue to anti or pro Putin. I don’t know that it will bother you, but I don’t very much appreciate you mischaracterizing what I’ve said.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
How do you know that? Put it down on a piece of paper, send it the Ukraine. If they want to fight, let'em fight. But no, I would probably rather live in Russia, but that is just me. LoL

Either way they are going to be slaves.
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Why don't you hop on a plane and go, I'm sure you would be welcome with open arms.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Yeah, they have been trying to fix it for 30 years, now they have $10s of billions coming through without accountability. Good luck with all that.. LoL
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Why do yuh think they want to follow the likes of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Poland? They see Moscow for what it is. A hopeless relic of the past. Their future is Europe.
 
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hog88 said:
Yes, we do put pressure on our allies to do what we want them to do. Yes we have troops in Syria right now but they are not there in a war of conquest but I still believe they need to be removed. Yes, our skirts are far from clean but our wrongs do not give Putin justification for his.
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Yeah, they're not "conquesting" they are simply "guarding" the oilfields. LoL
 
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tvolsfan said:
Why do yuh think they want to follow the lines of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania? They see Moscow for what it is.
A hopeless relic of the past.
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Funny I find the Euro Zone to be going back to 1980s USSR. LoL

Its their choice, let'em fight.
 
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