War in Ukraine

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AirVol said:
Where’s all this money coming from that the US is giving Ukraine? Hell, congress can’t even present a damn budget but hey….America first, right Joe?
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It's being laundered and stuffed into the pockets of admin officials and their partners. Along with Ukrainian elites getting their cut of course.
 
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KB5252 said:
Russia asked for the smoke when they invaded Ukraine, if Ukraine pops off at their border isn't that something they should have considered beforehand?

The only ones threatening to take into Russia is Ukraine, the ones that got invaded. If Russia is so concerned about that perhaps they should withdraw troops and affirm the previous borders. Problem solved.

Edit I agree, it's not complex..... See above
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That is why they are there, to make sure there is distance between them and Nato to deploy their tactical nuclear weapons. Obviously, it was thought about for about 30 years which is why Congress was questioning all the military buildup by 1998.

Its not complex, but you are making it complex.

If Russia is so concerned about that perhaps they should withdraw troops and affirm the previous borders. Problem solved.
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The problem is being solved, you don't like the solution.
 
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hog88 said:
Yet the indisputable facts show Trump was less cooperative and harder on Putin than Obama/Biden was and Biden (&Co) are now.
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This. People seem to think that Trump fawning on Putin somehow stopped him from invading Ukraine is beyond retarded. The reality is Putin knew the response wouldn't favor his regime so when Joe "Kid Toucher" Biden came in he knew the US wouldn't jump into the fray and he was right. He grossly miscalculated his militaries abilities and competence though.
 
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Did y'all discuss where Zelensky thinks NATO should pre-strike Russia? I didn't know Ukraine was NATO?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
That is why they are there, to make sure there is distance between them and Nato to deploy their tactical nuclear weapons. Obviously, it was thought about for about 30 years which is why Congress was questioning all the military buildup by 1998.

Its not complex, but you are making it complex.



The problem is being solved, you don't like the solution.
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No..........Sovereign Nations have watched Russia take by force their prior satellites. If they don't allow Russia to rule them by proxy Russia invades.

In response former Russian territories have turned to to Europe and the west for assistance. Russian aggression has been the single biggest factor, even the catalyst, for NATO expansion.


And I'm the one making this complex? You're the one attempting to circle it back around and place the blame on America.

You don't like America supporting the war in Ukraine..., fine. We're not blameless but Russia engineered this war. They counted on the US and Europe being weak and capitulating to his aggression in the region. He miscalculated and now he's scrambling to save face and find a way to pitch an empty victory to his people.
 
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Not to get all conspiracy theorist but I wonder if we've seen something that may indicate Russia is preparing nukes? The rhetoric seems to me to be growing, especially with Biden's statements last night. We'd be the last ones to know to prevent a panic run on banks and food stores.
 
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Burhead said:
Not to get all conspiracy theorist but I wonder if we've seen something that may indicate Russia is preparing nukes? The rhetoric seems to me to be growing, especially with Biden's statements last night. We'd be the last ones to know to prevent a panic run on banks and food stores.
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Biden's handlers are itching to light off some firecrackers. Putin is a bastard but I don't think he's insane enough to use nuclear weapons.
 
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hog88 said:
Yet the indisputable facts show Trump was less cooperative and harder on Putin than Obama/Biden was and Biden (&Co) are now.
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This phrase "indisputable facts."

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There's a BBC article about the nuclear threat in which Zelensky says he did not call for a first nuclear strike by the west but that his statement was mistranslated by Russia for their own purposes.
 
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