War in Ukraine

Had the Minsk ceasefire agreements been implemented over the last 8 years, Donbas would still be part of Ukraine.
Just occupied by Russians. With no Ukrainian officials. And with a metric eff ton of "resettled" population that just so happens to change the demographics in Russias favor....

The russians never upheld their end of the bargain. They never pulled their troops out. They never stopped attacking the Ukrainians. They never stopped supplying lethal weapons. You act like it was only voided by one side, but even a cursory review, shows neither side acted in good faith.
 
oh thats all huh?
Remember its genocidal when our politicians mention they would be willing to consider the use of nukes if it came to it after Russia deployed their own arsenal. But Russia stating they will use them, to defend some brdige, not just consider using them, is somehow a peace keeping statement. Double standards everywhere.
 
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I think things are about to get real for everyone. Stock up on non perishable food. We could even see shortages here with poor harvests this year in the U.S.

This all starts when Europe finally figures out the United States isn't there friend. Europe is going to suffer for decades to come either way.
 
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Exxxactly. Also, if "expansionist" is bad, how bad is the US?
When did we last annex territory from a neighbor? The 1840s Mexico? Maybe one of those weird Canadian border issues, those lasted until WW2.

I love how a voluntary alliance is bad expansionism, but armed occupation of a break away region is good expansionism.
 
Just occupied by Russians. With no Ukrainian officials. And with a metric eff ton of "resettled" population that just so happens to change the demographics in Russias favor....

The russians never upheld their end of the bargain. They never pulled their troops out. They never stopped attacking the Ukrainians. They never stopped supplying lethal weapons. You act like it was only voided by one side, but even a cursory review, shows neither side acted in good faith.
they were back to taking towns within 6 days of minsk ii
 
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When did we last annex territory from a neighbor? The 1840s Mexico? Maybe one of those weird Canadian border issues, those lasted until WW2.

I love how a voluntary alliance is bad expansionism, but armed occupation of a break away region is good expansionism.

The United States does it a different way... invasion or supplies armed rebellions and than installs puppet regimes. With control of the global credit system, installing puppet regimes become somewhat easy.

You continue to try way too hard.
 
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Lets see here...according to outside Election supervisors...

93% in Zaporizhzhia
87% in Kherson
98% in Luhansk
99% in Donetsk

Voted to join Russia. That doesnt sound like winning to me in regards to Ukraine. It doesnt sound like massive anti-Russian sentiment to me.

Why are we not respecting the will of the people in eastern and southern, what was, Ukraine?
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Can you provide the statements from the Ukrainian election observers and their certification of the results Larry?

Outside observers….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! 😂
 
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When did we last annex territory from a neighbor? The 1840s Mexico? Maybe one of those weird Canadian border issues, those lasted until WW2.

I love how a voluntary alliance is bad expansionism, but armed occupation of a break away region is good expansionism.
the largest country on the face of the earth by a wide margin with government officials talking about taking alaska back, marching to the indian ocean. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE US.

At least my turds flush after I'm done taking a ****.
 
My prediction for the next 6 to 9 months:

Russia is heavily reinforced and launches another offensive resulting in much of the Donbas area being reclaimed by them. At some point a bloody stalemate developes. 100,000 total KIA on both sides by spring. The west begins to grow weary of supporting the war. Social upheaval begins in the UK and Germany as winter cold sets in and the European recession deepens. Food shortages lead to more chaos across the globe due to continuing disruptions.

The wild cards: 1) Poland. I have a feeling that they are foolishly itching to get directly involved. 2) Belarus. Will they officially make it a 2 front war? 3) Tactical nukes. Will Putin use them? He may become more of a bad guy to the rest of the world if he does. He may not risk it. 4) China. They are beginning to spiral down economically. They are in trouble. Do they make a move against Taiwan out of desperation?

I think things are about to get real for everyone. Stock up on non perishable food. We could even see shortages here with poor harvests this year in the U.S.
Who the hell is going to “reinforce” Russia? Their only suppliers that are willing to play are Iran and North Korea
 
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Although the amount of total money put into Afghanistan will be much higher, my guess is the ROI is going to be much higher in the Ukraine for US and Ukrainian politicians.

The Ukrainians are expendable ants at best, hopefully someone can save a few of those women... hot. Hot women only get you so much.

Yeah. Biden's son, Pelosi's son, Romney's son, and Kerry's son already drained so many millions of dollars of dirty money from Ukraine than any of those families will ever need while Ukrainian women have been slobbering knob in Istanbul, Beijing, Amsterdam, and every other city in Eurasia just to get by from being a citizen in Europe's poorest country. But these American politicians and the people who vote for them really care about Ukrainians!

American and Ukrainian politicians are not only getting phat paydays from weapons companies, but Monsanto owns 20% of all of the farmland in Ukraine, so that's another big payday right there. Ukrainian men are basically dying to defend Corporate American soil.

Interestingly, Ukraine and Russia already had a whole lot more women than men even before the war started. In the past, it's been hard to get into Russia without a work visa and I imagine it's even harder now and probably not worth the risk of the US government prosecuting you if a $3 lunch at Uncle Vanya's shows up on your American Express Skymiles card.

Ukraine, on the other hand, has always been wide open, but the best place to meet the best-looking Ukrainian women is the dive bars between the Hyatt and Hilton in Taksim district in Istanbul. A lot of them are very well-spoken ladies fluent in English who are obviously very well-educated but with zero opportunity in their homeland since their nation's wealth gets sucked out to Washington DC, so they have to suck off outside of Ukraine to suck money back in. The best-looking Ukrainian I've ever seen, though, has been a streetwalker in China. That one was pre-Maidan, but all the coup did was swap out a corrupt donkey for an equally corrupt mule.

Due to the war, the gender gap in Ukraine and Russia is growing, particularly in the 18-40 age range, especially in Ukraine since it's losing more men both nominally and especially per capita than the Russians. That being said, I've seen a lot of articles about how wives in the UK and elsewhere are angry because their fat middle-aged husbands are leaving them for Ukrainian pieces of ass in their 20s that moved into their home as refugees. Plus Ukrainian women are saturating Tinder and those sites in Western Europe. Russian women are banned for traveling to most of those countries, so they can't leave their husband on the front line for a much wealthier Jody in Germany or Poland the way Ukrainian women can. The war in Ukraine is perhaps the best thing to ever happen to Ukrainian women and one of the worst things to happen in decades to Ukrainian men, except for the "brave" Comedian and his crew who are becoming fantastically wealthy men.
 
And loans, which is a big one.

Borrower is _______ to the lender.

At this stage the United States is using its control of the global credit system to effectively take control of countries and their policies. Its probably time for all this to come to an end.

Americans are in for one hell of an awakening if that happens.
 
Who the hell is going to “reinforce” Russia? Their only suppliers that are willing to play are Iran and North Korea

They are reinforcing with manpower only from their own population. They love throwing bodies at a problem. Will lead to a lot more KIA, but they'll get some push. They haven't evolved in military strategy in a hundred years.
 
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They are reinforcing with manpower only from their own population. They love throwing bodies at a problem. Will lead to a lot more KIA, but they'll get some push. They haven't evolved in military strategy in a hundred years.
Ah ok. Thus far their reinforced troops haven’t been given any actual training, been equipped with outdated equipment, and shown no will to fight. So my guess is they’re going to need a much larger stock of body bags assuming the conscripts don’t just surrender en masse or flat out run. Which I absolutely don’t blame them for doing.
 
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Yeah, the trolls do that when they dont have a legitimate answer. Just like they do with Ritter. They dont discuss where his analysis is flawed (which would be interesting as I am sure he isnt totally correct), they start on the character attacks.
He's just another nostradamus. Throw enough crap against a wall and he gets stuff correct eventually. And then you herald him as some visionary.

IIRC he was pushing that Polish invasion of eastern Ukraine angle pretty hard. I must have missed that little bit of truth happening on the world wide western news machine.
 
It starts either way. Some people won't be able to afford to eat and keep warm this winter.

What I meant is once they all collectively figure out the root problem. The issue now is they are screwed with limited options for a decade or two. At some point the rest of the world is going to just say F it, reset.

I think its possible they make it through this winter but economically none of this is going to work even medium term.
 
Ah ok. Thus far their reinforced troops haven’t been given any actual training, been equipped with outdated equipment, and shown no will to fight. So my guess is they’re going to need a much larger stock of body bags assuming the conscripts don’t just surrender en masse or flat out run. Which I absolutely don’t blame them for doing.

Yep. A lot will get cut down in battle. Putin doesn't give a damn about them. That's another wild card: How many will give it their all on the battlefield. I think they got about 75K new volunteers....if that's true those guys will definitely fight. Can't say the same for the draftees. However, he can probably muster enough bodies to get some push, but I think the Ruskies eventually get bogged down again this winter.
 
Remember its genocidal when our politicians mention they would be willing to consider the use of nukes if it came to it after Russia deployed their own arsenal. But Russia stating they will use them, to defend some brdige, not just consider using them, is somehow a peace keeping statement. Double standards everywhere.

Which Russian threatened to use nukes and what did he or she say?
 
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What I meant is once they all collectively figure out the root problem. The issue now is they are screwed with limited options for a decade or two. At some point the rest of the world is going to just say F it, reset.

I think its possible they make it through this winter but economically none of this is going to work even medium term.

Maybe the reset as far as global trade goes is already happening? Countries, including the U.S. are already beginning to to decouple...particularly from China. Like you said though, will take many moons.
 
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He's just another nostradamus. Throw enough crap against a wall and he gets stuff correct eventually. And then you herald him as some visionary.

IIRC he was pushing that Polish invasion of eastern Ukraine angle pretty hard. I must have missed that little bit of truth happening on the world wide western news machine.

Has anyone here said Ritter's analysis has been perfect? Maybe I missed it. I have said his analysis has largely been spot on and fair. He has criticized both sides and provided reasoning for it. He hasnt been perfect for sure, no one is, but it has been hard to find fair commentary on this issue from people with his level of expertise.
 
Yep. A lot will get cut down in battle. Putin doesn't give a damn about them. That's another wild card: How many will give it their all on the battlefield. I think they got about 75K new volunteers....if that's true those guys will definitely fight. Can't say the same for the draftees. However, he can probably muster enough bodies to get some push, but I think the Ruskies eventually get bogged down again this winter.
I think you’re over estimating the will of the misled volunteers once they get into the system. All indications are morale continues to decay and the time constant gets shorter as time goes on.
 
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I think you’re over estimating the will of the misled volunteers once they get into the system. All indications are morale continues to decay and the time constant gets shorter as time goes on.

I guess we'll see about that. If that is true on a large scale then Putin may eventually accidentally fall out a window.
 

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