War in Ukraine

[KB5252]

Lets see here...according to outside Election supervisors...

93% in Zaporizhzhia
87% in Kherson
98% in Luhansk
99% in Donetsk

Voted to join Russia. That doesnt sound like winning to me in regards to Ukraine. It doesnt sound like massive anti-Russian sentiment to me.

Why are we not respecting the will of the people in eastern and southern, what was, Ukraine?

Dude, lol at those numbers............. You can't actually believe numbers like these.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Maybe the reset as far as global trade goes is already happening? Countries, including the U.S. are already beginning to to decouple...particularly from China. Like you said though, will take many moons.

I've always thought the reset would happen due to Math (use of interest), it should have collapsed in 2008. For the most part it did, its now a just a Frankenstein system. However, I never thought the United States would go in the direction of self-denotation of the system... to me that is what this all appears to be.

I don't think anyone can pretend with any kind of accuracy the details of what is going to occur, I think we are well down the path of collapse... whether on purpose or not.

 

[LouderVol]

You have no idea what is going on there, my bet is you haven't been within 3000 miles of Russia.

You are trying way too hard with your concern concerning. (it really isn't difficult, the areas that are pro-russia maybe taken, the other areas will be flattened over time... Russia doesn't care if they are pro-west.. they already were)

Let'em fight, it really doesn't bother me if that whole country gets flattened... if that is what they want.

Within 300. But not sure what that has to do with anything.

They were "Pro Russian" in the sense that they wanted to continue economic ties with Russia. Not that they wanted to be occupied by Russian forces and have their neighbors killed.

Why do you think the first thing the Russians did was kick out the local officials, who would be representatives of the Pro Russian population, and not just the "federal" ones?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Within 300. But not sure what that has to do with anything.

They were "Pro Russian" in the sense that they wanted to continue economic ties with Russia. Not that they wanted to be occupied by Russian forces and have their neighbors killed.

Why do you think the first thing the Russians did was kick out the local officials, who would be representatives of the Pro Russian population, and not just the "federal" ones?

Generally speaking trying to hold territories like that are pretty hard medium and long term. It will work itself out most likely. As far as what they are wanting it seems pretty easy... either join us or give up your large scale military equipment.

The problem is the deal is going to get much worse over time, and for good reason.

I would say its fairly easy to see.. this will continue until the non-prorussian areas are flattened, as that is what they want.

 

[LouderVol]

Lets see here...according to outside Election supervisors...

93% in Zaporizhzhia
87% in Kherson
98% in Luhansk
99% in Donetsk

Voted to join Russia. That doesnt sound like winning to me in regards to Ukraine. It doesnt sound like massive anti-Russian sentiment to me.

Why are we not respecting the will of the people in eastern and southern, what was, Ukraine?

Define these outsiders?

Also russia admitted to not even knowing what all areas were covered in these votes. Kinda hard to argue you got 90 something percent support from an area you cant even define.

 

[norrislakevol]

I've always thought the reset would happen due to Math (use of interest), it should have collapsed in 2008. For the most part it did, its now a just a Frankenstein system. However, I never thought the United States would go in the direction of self-denotation of the system... to me that is what this all appears to be.

I don't think anyone can pretend with any kind of accuracy the details of what is going to occur, I think we are well down the path of collapse... whether on purpose or not.

Let's hope it's a soft landing for everyone. However, things like this don't normally occur without upheaval. I am actively preparing for that.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Let's hope it's a soft landing for everyone. However, things like this don't normally occur without upheaval. I am actively preparing for that.

I think its wise. If the global credit system goes... I don't expect large scale global trading to resume in my lifetime, and that is best case. Lots of liquidation is going to have to occur.

 

[norrislakevol]

I think its wise. If the global credit system goes... I don't expect large scale global trading to resume in my lifetime, and that is best case. Lots of liquidation is going to have to occur.

Yup. Hardly anyone is considering global corporate debt. China is starting to get a taste of that already.

 

[LouderVol]

they were back to taking towns within 6 days of minsk ii

Yarp. Neither side was following it. And it's not hard to see why. It didnt resolve anything. It didnt even try to.

It was a diplomatic facade so that Putin could say he tried, shrug it off, and do what he was always going to do.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Ukraine Urges Citizens To Limit Electricity Use As Russia Pummels Infrastructure

The damage from the attacks was so severe that Ukraine is ending all electrical exports to Europe, saying its own grid is now unstable.

I generally don't post to much on the daily activities in the Ukraine because its kind of moot, however, I will note that the Ukraine is stopping electricity exports to Europe. Something to keep on eye on, I have no idea how much they export, guessing not significant but probably doesn't help... seeing others are saying exports haven't been completely stopped. The real war is financial in Europe, the Ukraine is immaterial and expendable.

 

[LouderVol]

The United States does it a different way... invasion or supplies armed rebellions and than installs puppet regimes. With control of the global credit system, installing puppet regimes become somewhat easy.

You continue to try way too hard.

So like Russia in Transnistria, South Ossetia, the never ending Chechen mess, I dare you to find some "alternative sources" on that situation. And let's not forget Ukraine, both big and small, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Iran.

That's not even going back beyond the last 5 years.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I guess we see where our stooges get it from now. It starts at the top apparently. In the same breath that Lavrov admits western overtures he claims it’s a lie that they have made overtures by labeling them not serious

Russia open to talks with West, awaiting serious proposal: Sergey Lavrov - National | Globalnews.ca

Lavrov said officials including White House national security spokesman John Kirby had said the United States was open to talks but that Russia had refused.

“This is a lie,” Lavrov said. “We have not received any serious offers to make contact.”

 

[NorthDallas40]

I guess we'll see about that. If that is true on a large scale then Putin may eventually accidentally fall out a window.

There have been video links posted here of recruits being lied to on their potential postings. One moron believed them when they told him he would be driving T-90’s. The interviewer pointed out Russia was currently pulling T-62’s out of mothballs and shipping them to the meat grinder. Truth be told the ki will probably be given a Mosin Nagant and shipped off with only that.

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[JuicyBrucey]

Has anyone here said Ritter's analysis has been perfect? Maybe I missed it. I have said his analysis has largely been spot on and fair. He has criticized both sides and provided reasoning for it. He hasnt been perfect for sure, no one is, but it has been hard to find fair commentary on this issue from people with his level of expertise.

I agree. He got cancelled by pro-Russian commentator Gonzalo Lira for saying the Ukrainian mobilization would be a game changer back when Russia had the momentum, but he's also cancelled by the US mainstream media for refusing to give Ukraine credit when it isn't due.

In the months leading up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Joe Biden ridiculed Ritter, called him Scotty Boy, and questioned his competence when he was a weapons inspector and said the Iraq WMD propaganda wasn't true. And here we are in 2022 with Iraq as a total mess, Biden as President of the United States of America, and Ritter cancelled. We're betting the farm on Joe Biden and disregarding Ritter again since it worked out so awesomely the last time.

 

[LSU-SIU]

So like Russia in Transnistria, South Ossetia, the never ending Chechen mess, I dare you to find some "alternative sources" on that situation. And let's not forget Ukraine, both big and small, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Iran.

That's not even going back beyond the last 5 years.

Oh other countries do it, you implied the United States doesn't. What the United States is trying to do is on a whole other scale, they control the whole world to a degree by being the gate keeper of the global credit system. Invasion and annexing really aren't needed against most countries as they control the world wallet. I have a feeling we are seeing the end of that in real time though.

The United States doesn't annex, they take it over by other means.

I think you are trying way too hard on all this.

Heck, someone wrote a book as to what the United States was doing in early 2014, see video I posted yesterday. LoL

Ukraine is/was just a puppet.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

Let's hope it's a soft landing for everyone. However, things like this don't normally occur without upheaval. I am actively preparing for that.

I lived in a couple of really bad neighborhoods in the USA back in the day. I'm so glad I'm not living in those neighborhoods now, because if the Russians or China mess around with the systems that make the EBT cards function, and just jackhammer them day in and day out, the riots would be epic, making the ones in 2020 look like pattycake in comparison.

 

[Velo Vol]

Pretty good.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I agree. He got cancelled by pro-Russian commentator Gonzalo Lira for saying the Ukrainian mobilization would be a game changer back when Russia had the momentum, but he's also cancelled by the US mainstream media for refusing to give Ukraine credit when it isn't due.

In the months leading up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Joe Biden ridiculed Ritter, called him Scotty Boy, and questioned his competence when he was a weapons inspector and said the Iraq WMD propaganda wasn't true. And here we are in 2022 with Iraq as a total mess, Biden as President of the United States of America, and Ritter cancelled. We're betting the farm on Joe Biden and disregarding Ritter again since it worked out so awesomely the last time.

Ritter cancelled himself when he got five felony convictions related to sexual activity with minors. Nobody will touch him but Russia and they hold him up as a sympathetic Western analyst. In return Ritter publishes whatever they want as he needs their charity. That is all there is to it.

Ex-U.N. official Ritter convicted in underage Internet sex sting

 

[JuicyBrucey]

Ritter cancelled himself when he got five felony convictions related to sexual activity with minors. Nobody will touch him but Russia and they hold him up as a sympathetic Western analyst. In return Ritter publishes whatever they want as he needs their charity. That is all there is to it.

Scott Ritter and Joe Biden are both kiddy fiddlers. One pedo was chosen by We the People as President of the United States, and is the leader of the NATO war efforts in Ukraine. The other pedo is cancelled.

 

[apevol]

I agree. He got cancelled by pro-Russian commentator Gonzalo Lira for saying the Ukrainian mobilization would be a game changer back when Russia had the momentum, but he's also cancelled by the US mainstream media for refusing to give Ukraine credit when it isn't due.

In the months leading up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Joe Biden ridiculed Ritter, called him Scotty Boy, and questioned his competence when he was a weapons inspector and said the Iraq WMD propaganda wasn't true. And here we are in 2022 with Iraq as a total mess, Biden as President of the United States of America, and Ritter cancelled. We're betting the farm on Joe Biden and disregarding Ritter again since it worked out so awesomely the last time.

Ritter is cancelled because he got caught trying to diddle kids. He's stuck peddling lies for a living.

 

[hog88]

Ritter cancelled himself when he got five felony convictions related to sexual activity with minors. Nobody will touch him but Russia and they hold him up as a sympathetic Western analyst. In return Ritter publishes whatever they want as he needs their charity. That is all there is to it.

Ex-U.N. official Ritter convicted in underage Internet sex sting

The Putinistas love them some scumbags.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Scott Ritter and Joe Biden are both kiddy fiddlers. One pedo was chosen by We the People as President of the United States, and is the leader of the NATO war efforts in Ukraine. The other pedo is cancelled.

LMAO I don’t blame you I’d deflect away from my Ritter stump speech after being pointed to his pedo history too

 

[NorthDallas40]

The Putinistas love them some scumbags.

He’s 100% bought and paid for. Both parties have no alternative. I’m guessing they loathe him just as much as everyone else.