War in Ukraine

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Video showing the impressive use of HIMARS / M270s from August counteroffensive in Kherson. These guys reportedly hit 120 targets over 37 hours - allowing UAF to blow right through the lines of the Russians. Targeting was done behind the lines with drones launched by UAF special forces.

Looking forward to the highlights from the next Ukrainian offensive where they continue to pulverize Russian troops and take back their rightful land.

Enjoy, Three Stooges!

Ukrainian Armed Forces destroyed Russian military equipment with HIMARS/MLRS
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
One of your three examples still has many government officials from the previous regime in the current regime.

I'll let you do the math and figure that one out..
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Yet we have a political party here in the U.S. that was

1. Responsible for the Trail of Tears
2. Openly supported the U.S. going to Civil War. Which it did.
3. Was against the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments
4. Had politicians that were largely against women having the right to vote.
5. Put Japanese Americans in concentration camps
6. Dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan.
7. Openly supported segregation.
8. Had 21 U.S. Senators and 90 House members vote against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
9. Strongly supports abortion.
10. Major cities where they govern have high crime and homelessness rates.
11. Supports teaching CRT
12. Supports transhumanism
13. Is for mandatory vaccinations and mass censorship.
14. Openly supports Antifa violence.
15. Supports pronoun policing

Yet somehow this political party is still one of 2 major political parties in the U.S.
 
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volfanhill said:
Lol. Of course they would come from that party you midget. Guess what? They don't all fall in line with the guy who jails and murders opposition. Who they claim to be doesn't mean it's who they are. And the absolute dumbest approach is to accept Putin bc the next guy might be worse. Nah. The next guy wants to be rich and powerful. Ok. Just don't be an idiot like Vlad. Clown.


It's like you guys don't even attempt to understand how people act under despots. Please read a book
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Please read a book? Lol I like that one. Once again I'm going to recommend you start taking your own advice.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Yet we have a political party here in the U.S. that was

1. Responsible for the Trail of Tears
2. Openly supported the U.S. going to Civil War. Which it did.
3. Was against the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments
4. Had politicians that were largely against women having the right to vote.
5. Put Japanese Americans in concentration camps
6. Dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan.
7. Openly supported segregation.
8. Had 21 U.S. Senators and 90 House members vote against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
9. Strongly supports abortion.
10. Major cities where they govern have high crime and homelessness rates.
11. Supports teaching CRT
12. Supports transhumanism
13. Is for mandatory vaccinations and mass censorship.
14. Openly supports Antifa violence.
15. Supports pronoun policing

Yet somehow this political party is still one of 2 major political parties in the U.S.
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It really isn't that hard to see. There shouldn't be a democrat on here taken seriously on any issue with that track record.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
They are doing exactly what their master is saying right now or more like paying for. Your definition might be different than mine, I mean if agreements are "enslavement", that would mean the United States is enslaved to the North Koreans.

They are free to fight until the last Ukrainian though, the deals from either side are not going to get better for them.
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And at least for a sizable chunk of the guys on the front line and the public they are fine with the deal as it is.

What's funny is that any pro Russian sentiment in that country is gone. Even if those people arent "proWest" they definitely arent going to be pro Russia. Especially if Russia makes this war destructive. And that also slides people who were "neutral" more into a Pro West stance. Putin has traded decent support in the entire country for complete control in about an 1/8th of it.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
According to @hog88, if Putin is gone, the rest of the people around him would be gone also.

Again, the only hope these guys have is for 3elensky to march to Moscow, or for Navalny or Saakashvili to somehow gain power.
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No Ras. With the heal of Putin’s boot off the neck of the good people of Russia I trust that they won’t make the mistake of installing a gangster government again. I have more faith in the Russian people than you do.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Putin in a lot of ways really seems to be idealistic and naive. He gave diplomacy a chance for the 8 years leading up to February 24th and still leaves the door cracked open 7 months later. But at some point, he's going to have to realize that the other side is not interested in negotiating in good faith.
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You really want to argue that the guy who sent in his own troops, aka invaded, in 2014 to kick out local officials, then dumped metric eff tons of weapons to arm non existent rebels, brought in mercenaries to cover the fact there were incredibly few rebels, and caused this whole thing to go hot, tried diplomacy first?
 
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DonjoVol said:
Oh goodness. You are going to hear all kinds of whataboutisms and non-sequiturs over that question today.
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Yeah, the trolls do that when they dont have a legitimate answer. Just like they do with Ritter. They dont discuss where his analysis is flawed (which would be interesting as I am sure he isnt totally correct), they start on the character attacks.
 
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LouderVol said:
And at least for a sizable chunk of the guys on the front line and the public they are fine with the deal as it is.

What's funny is that any pro Russian sentiment in that country is gone. Even if those people arent "proWest" they definitely arent going to be pro Russia. Especially if Russia makes this war destructive. And that also slides people who were "neutral" more into a Pro West stance. Putin has traded decent support in the entire country for complete control in about an 1/8th of it.
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You have no idea what is going on there, my bet is you haven't been within 3000 miles of Russia.

You are trying way too hard with your concern concerning. (it really isn't difficult, the areas that are pro-russia maybe taken, the other areas will be flattened over time... Russia doesn't care if they are pro-west.. they already were)

Let'em fight, it really doesn't bother me if that whole country gets flattened... if that is what they want.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Yet we have a political party here in the U.S. that was

1. Responsible for the Trail of Tears
2. Openly supported the U.S. going to Civil War. Which it did.
3. Was against the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments
4. Had politicians that were largely against women having the right to vote.
5. Put Japanese Americans in concentration camps
6. Dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan.
7. Openly supported segregation.
8. Had 21 U.S. Senators and 90 House members vote against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
9. Strongly supports abortion.
10. Major cities where they govern have high crime and homelessness rates.
11. Supports teaching CRT
12. Supports transhumanism
13. Is for mandatory vaccinations and mass censorship.
14. Openly supports Antifa violence.
15. Supports pronoun policing

Yet somehow this political party is still one of 2 major political parties in the U.S.
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Cannot argue with any of that at all.
 
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DonjoVol said:
You really need to learn how to read and process information. Blindly following only mainstream media in the U.S. and Europe has clearly affected some people's ability to think in this thread.

You and others have stated that you want Putin removed from power. If it did happen, which is unlikely, the next leader of Russia would more than likely come from the United Russia party. Why? Because they have majority control and is the party that's preferred by most Russian citizens. It's really not that difficult to understand.

Now you and the rest of your crew need to stop being drama queens. You all are really embarrassing yourselves at this point. If you guys like drama that much then please watch Days of Our Lives. It's still on the air. Or maybe you can some find reruns of Falcon Crest or Dynasty.
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I love the fact that you guys skim over the fact that a bunch of "ex" commies run a party called United Russia that has pushed for a Union State of post-Soviet States, maintained the same level of control and support as the commies they "replaced", and dont think twice about it.

Never once comparing it to the history of any other nation, or even Russian history, when they have had major changes in government.

After the Russian empire fell you had: constitutional tsarists, democrats, fascists, and communists. Even the commies that won were made up of various groups that got purged later, communist Marxists, communists Leninites, social democrats, social nationalists. But no, its believable this "new" party that rose from the communist ashes and maintained communist levels of support and control, ran by "ex" communists, were totally not the same people in charge of the USSR.

And it's definitely not worth looking into how a glorified translator had enough support to be elected. And its mos' definitely not worth looking into the events that lead up to him getting reelected. You know a certain bombing performed by a mercenary ethnicity that shortly after saw a regime change and became best buds of the guy they "bombed".
 
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Lets see here...according to outside Election supervisors...

93% in Zaporizhzhia
87% in Kherson
98% in Luhansk
99% in Donetsk

Voted to join Russia. That doesnt sound like winning to me in regards to Ukraine. It doesnt sound like massive anti-Russian sentiment to me.

Why are we not respecting the will of the people in eastern and southern, what was, Ukraine?
 
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My prediction for the next 6 to 9 months:

Russia is heavily reinforced and launches another offensive resulting in much of the Donbas area being reclaimed by them. At some point a bloody stalemate developes. 100,000 total KIA on both sides by spring. The west begins to grow weary of supporting the war. Social upheaval begins in the UK and Germany as winter cold sets in and the European recession deepens. Food shortages lead to more chaos across the globe due to continuing disruptions.

The wild cards: 1) Poland. I have a feeling that they are foolishly itching to get directly involved. 2) Belarus. Will they officially make it a 2 front war? 3) Tactical nukes. Will Putin use them? He may become more of a bad guy to the rest of the world if he does. He may not risk it. 4) China. They are beginning to spiral down economically. They are in trouble. Do they make a move against Taiwan out of desperation?

I think things are about to get real for everyone. Stock up on non perishable food. We could even see shortages here with poor harvests this year in the U.S.
 
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volgr said:
Lets see here...according to outside Election supervisors...

93% in Zaporizhzhia
87% in Kherson
98% in Luhansk
99% in Donetsk

Voted to join Russia. That doesnt sound like winning to me in regards to Ukraine. It doesnt sound like massive anti-Russian sentiment to me.

Why are we not respecting the will of the people in eastern and southern, what was, Ukraine?
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"Come on man". A majority may have indeed voted to join Russia, but there is no way the numbers are that high. I'm not buying it.
 
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