War in Ukraine

Russians tend to prefer blunt instruments to achieve "surgical precision". Why use a scalpel when you can use a saw, or a saw when you can just use a big hammer.
What type of surgical precision did we use in Dresden? What about Vietnam? Iraq? Syria? Serbia? Afghanistan? I'm sure you have a list of the surgical strikes the US and NATO engaged in somewhere within that list of countries.
 
In Russia?

You got me. The Soviet Russians shipped Oswald from Moscow to Minsk, Belarus. And for the record, I forgot that Cuba apparently didn't want him. It's been a few years since I've thought about that clown. I did watch him get shot on live TV though.
 
In 5 years, at the rate things are going right now, Europe will be in such dire straits, that you'll see refugees from Europe flowing into MENA. Meanwhile, Russia is cutting trade deals left and right with countries in Asia and the global south, while we look for more people to wage war against.
I simply mentioned how Russia was making trade deals and could still have trading partners without Europe and the West awhile back. Guess that's what got me labeled "Pootin stooge " lol.
 
I simply mentioned how Russia was making trade deals and could still have trading partners without Europe and the West awhile back. Guess that's what got me labeled "Pootin stooge " lol.
No Curly your continual pro Russian propaganda, cheer leading, and shilling got you labeled a Pootin Stooge. And it’s an accurate label.
 
No Curly your continual pro Russian propaganda, cheer leading, and shilling got you labeled a Pootin Stooge. And it’s an accurate label.
Lol. You are going to have to show me posts where I did any of those 3.

I'm beginning to think sharing the truth equals Russian propaganda.

Russian troll in this thread = sane, rational American.
 
You got me. The Soviet Russians shipped Oswald from Moscow to Minsk, Belarus. And for the record, I forgot that Cuba apparently didn't want him. It's been a few years since I've thought about that clown. I did watch him get shot on live TV though.
It's not about getting you. I just want you to look at this from a fair and balanced position. We can agree that Belarus was within the same country as "Russia" during the Soviet days... no different than Ukraine was within the same country as "Russia" back then. So imagine that you are in Eastern Ukraine in 1991 and in the blink of an eye, you go from being within the same borders as Russia to suddenly finding yourself in another country, through no fault of your own. And even further, but even before the Soviet era, you were within the same country for over 150 years during the tsarist era. These people have identified themselves as Russian and have belonged to Russia for a significant amount of time since the days of Catherine the Great up until 1991.
 
You got me. The Soviet Russians shipped Oswald from Moscow to Minsk, Belarus. And for the record, I forgot that Cuba apparently didn't want him. It's been a few years since I've thought about that clown. I did watch him get shot on live TV though.
Which goes to what I have been saying. You are holding over your biases from the Cold War and projecting the same values on the Russian Federation that you had for the Soviet Union. No one here will stand here and say that the Soviet Union was a benevolent and wonderful regime. But to compare the Russian federation of today to the USSR is ludicrous. Infact, the Russian federation, outside of being a nuclear power, is structurally not much different than most other countries on this planet.

And if you are honest... as hard as it may be for you to admit, the fact remains that Putin and the people around him are far more competent that anything in the US, UK, Germany, France, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and other NATO/EU countries. The people we have in the West are fools, corrupt, nihilistic, and worthy of being sent to the gallows. These people need to be defeated and discredited. That will come this winter once things fall into place and Europe, unfortunately, returns to the Dark Ages.

Humanaity needs for NATO and the EU to lose in this campaign.
 
It's not about getting you. I just want you to look at this from a fair and balanced position. We can agree that Belarus was within the same country as "Russia" during the Soviet days... no different than Ukraine was within the same country as "Russia" back then. So imagine that you are in Eastern Ukraine in 1991 and in the blink of an eye, you go from being within the same borders as Russia to suddenly finding yourself in another country, through no fault of your own. And even further, but even before the Soviet era, you were within the same country for over 150 years during the tsarist era. These people have identified themselves as Russian and have belonged to Russia for a significant amount of time since the days of Catherine the Great up until 1991.

So for example the Brits could just go back and take up where they left off in India because they had included India in the British Empire until 1949 or so? That what you are saying?
 
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Which goes to what I have been saying. You are holding over your biases from the Cold War and projecting the same values on the Russian Federation that you had for the Soviet Union. No one here will stand here and say that the Soviet Union was a benevolent and wonderful regime. But to compare the Russian federation of today to the USSR is ludicrous. Infact, the Russian federation, outside of being a nuclear power, is structurally not much different than most other countries on this planet.

And if you are honest... as hard as it may be for you to admit, the fact remains that Putin and the people around him are far more competent that anything in the US, UK, Germany, France, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and other NATO/EU countries. The people we have in the West are fools, corrupt, nihilistic, and worthy of being sent to the gallows. These people need to be defeated and discredited. That will come this winter once things fall into place and Europe, unfortunately, returns to the Dark Ages.

Humanaity needs for NATO and the EU to lose in this campaign.

Your hatred for the US has completely run you off the rails.
 
So for example the Brits could just go back and take up where they left off in India because they had included India in the British Empire until 1949 or so? That what you are saying?
I guess they can if they want to try that. It also depends on the circumstances. Are British citizens leftover from the empire being bombed and shelled and are they not allowed to speak English and maintain the British culture as was done in eastern Ukraine?
 
Where in that is my so-called hatred for America on full display? Is telling the truth = hate?
You’re not “telling the truth” Moe. You continually distort the facts. For example the “2014 coup” stupidity which you continually misrepresent since what actually happened is the Ukrainian parliament exercised their constitutional powers and removed the president.
 
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You’re not “telling the truth” Moe. You continually distort the facts. For example the “2014 coup” stupidity which you continually misrepresent since what actually happened is the Ukrainian parliament exercised their constitutional powers and removed the president.
The Obama State Department played a huge part in getting that going.
 
The Obama State Department played a huge part in getting that going.
Oh I have no doubt our state dept was active. As was Russia’s. But the fact is the PARLIAMENT exercised their constitutional powers and removed an elected official as is their right. That by definition is not a coup it’s a valid constitutional process. It’s only a coup because your installed boy got called on his bait and switch BS and got legally tossed out on his ass.
 
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Oh I have no doubt our state dept was active. As was Russia’s. But the fact is the PARLIAMENT exercised their constitutional powers and removed an elected official as is their right. That by definition is not a coup it’s a valid constitutional process. It’s only a coup because your installed boy got called on his bait and switch BS and got legally tossed out on his ass.
You completely ignore the protests and the eventual violent overthrow. The US State Department with their NGOs pulled a BLM/ANTIFA/color revolution.
 
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You completely ignore the protests and the eventual violent overthrow. The US State Department with their NGOs pulled a BLM/ANTIFA/color revolution.
No. Based on the erratic behavior and radical policy shifts of your home boy the Ukrainian parliament exercised their constitutional power and threw him out. As is their right. And your continual grousing on it is just sour grapes back ground noise because homie got called and tossed. That’s it.
 
No. Based on the erratic behavior and radical policy shifts of your home boy the Ukrainian parliament exercised their constitutional power and threw him out. As is their right. And your continual grousing on it is just sour grapes back ground noise because homie got called and tossed. That’s it.
And again, the riots and ANTIFA/BLM mob on the streets? You still ignore that.
 
Oh and your fake Pearl clutching on military deaths based on your post history about the military in this thread alone shows you’re a straight up hypocrite Brucey

Keep gloating about Afghanistan, North Dallas. I neither needed nor wanted those ladies and gents to go over there to Afghanistan and get blown to pieces. You needed those two women to die for you during the US retreat, along with those 11 men. Your ego demanded their human sacrifice. Own it.
 
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