War in Ukraine

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JuicyBrucey said:
Keep gloating about Afghanistan, North Dallas. I neither needed nor wanted those ladies and gents to go over there to Afghanistan and get blown to pieces. You needed those two women to die for you during the US retreat, along with those 11 men. Your ego demanded their human sacrifice. Own it.
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I’m not gloating about Afghanistan Brucey. In fact I stated in the thread on it what a fiasco and failed policy venture it was.

What I am doing is mocking your ignorance on conflation of participants and stepping on your own johnson by using incorrect labels and claims for the parties involved.

And I look forward to mocking your next completely off point and blatant non sequitur and deflection away from your own blatantly stupid claims 🤡
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Yes we are. And we kept pointing you to what actually transpired. Which you blindly ignore. 🤡
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What actually transpired? Do i need to unremember the Victoria Nuland and Geofrey Pyatt phone call where they plotted on who should be the next leaders after Yanukovych was ousted 2 weeks prior? What about John McCain and Lindsey Graham going over to Ukraine a few years later, when the Minsk ceasefire agreements were supposed to be implemented, and they are over there talking about arming the Ukrainians even more?

Tell me exactly what part of the story I'm missing.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
What actually transpired? Do i need to unremember the Victoria Nuland and Geofrey Pyatt phone call where they plotted on who should be the next leaders after Yanukovych was ousted 2 weeks prior? What about John McCain and Lindsey Graham going over to Ukraine a few years later, when the Minsk ceasefire agreements were supposed to be implemented, and they are over there talking about arming the Ukrainians even more?

Tell me exactly what part of the story I'm missing.
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That there was no coup and your home boy was thrown out legally by parliament for making unilateral radical policy shifts. Which is their right. And I know I’ve rubbed your nose in these actual facts myself at least 20 separate times. And I have no illusion you will acknowledge it this time either Moe.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
That there was no coup and your home boy was thrown out legally by parliament for making unilateral radical policy shifts. Which is their right. And I know I’ve rubbed your nose in these actual facts myself at least 20 separate times. And I have no illusion you will acknowledge it this time either Moe.
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OK, you are ridiculous. There is no reaching you. You are a total clown.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
OK, you are ridiculous. There is no reaching you. You are a total clown.
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That’s exactly what I’m saying about you Moe and I have a factual record of the parliament actions to point to showing I’m right and don’t need any “there is no Carol in HR” dumbassery to prove my point!
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
That’s exactly what I’m saying about you Moe and I have a factual record of the parliament actions to point to showing I’m right and don’t need any “there is no Carol in HR” dumbassery to prove my point!
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And again, what happened before the parliament actions? You completely ignore the ANTIFA/BLM/color revolution that was coordinated by the Obama State Department.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
And again, what happened before the parliament actions? You completely ignore the ANTIFA/BLM/color revolution that was coordinated by the Obama State Department.
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I thought you were done with me Moe? Look if you really disagree with the decision to throw his ass out you should take it up with the responsible parties that exercised their authority… the Ukrainian parliament members 😂
 
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MG1968 said:
Again, I acknowledge the shady crap the US does. How on earth are you so thick headed that you assume I’ve drank the KoolAid just because I think Putin is a thug?
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Because you dismiss his justification for going in to Ukraine. And his justifications are not only valid, but they would be the same thing that the US would do... or any other country would do in a similar situation. You can't have a military alliance that is hostile to you overthrowing govts on your border. You can't have that military alliance then arming and training troops in that neighboring country. And lastly, you can't have people that have strong ethnic ties to you being attacked and shelled without you trying to do something to stop it.

But again, it all comes down to the fact that you all have this Cold War mentality about Russians, which allows you to discount their security concerns and allows you to dismiss any actions they take within their sphere of influence. And really, that "sphere of influence" thing goes beyond just Russia. The USS does the same thing all across the globe, as if we are the world police or the protectors of democracy and freedom. If the US can have a Monroe Doctrine, at the very least, Russia and China can have their own set of rules with regards to their security concerns.

Also, for us to be allegedly a capitalist nations right... we sure are not engaging in capitalism. Meaning, we are not building businesses or cutting trade deals or expanding possibilities with energy. Instead, we are looking for one sided economic deals that only benefit us in a rapacious manner, rather than a mutually beneficial manner.
 
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MG1968 said:
Again, I acknowledge the shady crap the US does. How on earth are you so thick headed that you assume I’ve drank the KoolAid just because I think Putin is a thug?
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He's an idiot, there really is not another plausible explanation. Ignorance can be forgiven, but he's been shown the facts and continues to hug pootin's nuts.

He has no credibility left, he has demonstrated a profound lack of critical reasoning skills and willfully ignores the obvious in defense of the indefensible.

Don't debate him, mock him.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Because you dimiss his justification for going in to Ukraine. And his justifications are not only valid, but they would be the same thing that the US would do... or any other country would do in a similar situation.
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Spot on. There is no legitimate refutation of this rock solid point.
 
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Septic said:
He's an idiot, there really is not another plausible explanation. Ignorance can be forgiven, but he's been shown the facts and continues to hug pootin's nuts.

He has no credibility left, he has demonstrated a profound lack of critical reasoning skills and willfully ignores the obvious in defense of the indefensible.

Don't debate him, mock him.
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I mean it really is remarkable. I didn’t always agree with him but I could understand his perspective. That’s all out the window and he’s a totally bought in Putin shill selling whatever Putin needs sold. Whether it’s even marginally believable or not. And the huge majority of the crap the stooges post isn’t even marginally believable and is largely demonstratively false 🤷‍♂️
 
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AM64 said:
So for example the Brits could just go back and take up where they left off in India because they had included India in the British Empire until 1949 or so? That what you are saying?
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Well some of these Ukrainian propagandists here have gone back over 800 years and mentioned Kievan Rus.
 
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DonjoVol said:
All of what you're saying is actually documented. But he's going to ignore it lol.

So in other words he knows it happened and doesn't care. If only he could just bring himself to admit it.
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What’s very well documented is the Ukrainian parliament vote to remove Putin’s lapdog Yanukovych Curly. It’s all recorded. No need for “but there were phone calls” or “ but these people met with those people” in other words no guessed at bull ****. Just a straight up legal and constitutional parliamentary action.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Well some of these Ukrainian propagandists here have gone back over 800 years and mentioned Kievan Rus.
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Yep. The people mocking you stooges go cherry pick ridiculous examples of singular points in time… to highlight the stooge stupidity of cherry picking singular points in time to try and sell a point 🤡
 
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