War in Ukraine

[Rasputin_Vol]

This is from the Kremlin:



He also said it was madness that Soviet Republics were allowed to leave the USSR.

Do you know why he said that? Because all of the Russians that lived in these various republics went from being all in one country (USSR) to in a flash becoming detached from Russia.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

No, Putin just wants to make it a vassal state.

What would have been the problem with Yanukovich in 2013 being able to have the flexibility to have economic dealings with both the EU and Russia? That was the origins of the problem. Ukraine has economic ties to Russia, along with the obvious ethnic and historical ties. But the Europeans/US wanted Yanukovich to sign a deal where Ukraine was exclusively to deal with Europe and end dealings with Russia.

Why did the West force an all or nothing deal?

 

[NorthDallas40]

WOW...This is projecting. It is the Ukrainians that are actually trying to attack that hydroelectric plant.

And the explanation given makes zero sense. Cover a retreat from the right bank? So they would blow up a damn and flood the area, which would in turn make retreating to the left bank that much more difficult?

Right bank = west side, left bank = east side.

So if they cross to the west/right bank, they are going to retreat to a flooded Dneiper and go to the east/left bank?

You and your orc homies should probably worry less about Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant and more about the North Crimean Canal Moe because that spigot is about to get cut off again.

 

[NorthDallas40]

What would have been the problem with Yanukovich in 2013 being able to have the flexibility to have economic dealings with both the EU and Russia? That was the origins of the problem. Ukraine has economic ties to Russia, along with the obvious ethnic and historical ties. But the Europeans/US wanted Yanukovich to sign a deal where Ukraine was exclusively to deal with Europe and end dealings with Russia.

Why did the West force an all or nothing deal?

Why not ask the Ukrainian parliament since they are the ones that threw his ass out Moe.

 

[Septic]

Heh. Exactly.

Things are so rosy in Kherson according to the Russian General that they have declared martial law, ordered all civilians to abandon the city west of the river, and have publicly stated that the situation is "very, very difficult".

Ukrainian troops reportedly outnumber Russians by a 4:1 ratio in Kherson.

When the Russians surrender the city, @volgr will blame Ukrainian Nazi witchcraft.

#WINNING

@Rasputin_Vol will report that the 4:1 odds is "kLEaRLY a Sup3rI0r AdVAnTaG3" for the ruskies. "How can we be serious and not admit it's not", he'll wonder.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Looks like a shift change at stooge central has hit.

 

[apevol]

I'm learning to speak russian

 

[hog88]

What would have been the problem with Yanukovich in 2013 being able to have the flexibility to have economic dealings with both the EU and Russia? That was the origins of the problem. Ukraine has economic ties to Russia, along with the obvious ethnic and historical ties. But the Europeans/US wanted Yanukovich to sign a deal where Ukraine was exclusively to deal with Europe and end dealings with Russia.

Why did the West force an all or nothing deal?

EU countries traded with Russia without an issue, why would Ukraine have been barred from continuing to trade with Russia?

 

[Septic]

I'm learning to speak russian

I've got a t-shirt from when I was stationed at the Defense Language Institute at the Presideo of Monterey that said "we speak Russian, so you don't have to."

 

[apevol]

I've got a t-shirt from when I was stationed at the Defense Language Institute at the Presideo of Monterey that said "we speak Russian, so you don't have to."

im gonna be a double agent, working with whoever the new polyakov is

 

[Electric Orange]

 

[hog88]

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Good grief, when does it end?

 

[MontyPython]

So again… links to actual reporting with verification of losses in Kherson, Larry?

@volgr got his "feelz".

Links and sources are for squares.

 

[volgr]

Crooked ba$tards...

 

[USF grad in TN]

I don't know if it's true, but here's a report that Putin recently attempted 2 nuclear tests that didn't happen, either due to technical failure or people refusing to conduct the test.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-tried-detonate-nuke-28286762

 

[tvolsfan]

Do you know why he said that? Because all of the Russians that lived in these various republics went from being all in one country (USSR) to in a flash becoming detached from Russia.

So?

 

[MontyPython]

 

[tvolsfan]

That is 100% false. Boris Johnson flew to Kyiv and told them to scrap the deal.

For 8 years, Putin had hoped that Minsk would be implemented. All it would have required was the recognition of Crimea as Russian territory, Donbas would still have been autonomous regions in Ukraine, and that Ukraine would remain neutral and not join NATO.

8 years he tried for diplomacy.

Obama's State Department starting a coup in 2013 and destabilizing the govt on its border and then spending 8 years building up a NATO trained and equipped army is certainly threatening.

 

[Orangeburst]

Good grief, when does it end?

It won't..we all knew it was coming..Hundreds of Billions.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I don't know if it's true, but here's a report that Putin recently attempted 2 nuclear tests that didn't happen, either due to technical failure or people refusing to conduct the test.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-tried-detonate-nuke-28286762

Oh I’d find it extremely hard to believe that after 3 decades of corruption and minimal financial resources that Russia has somehow bypassed all that resistance and managed to keep its nukes in a tip top state of readiness.

 

[hog88]

It won't..we all knew it was coming..Hundreds of Billions.

It's getting comical now. Like it's not even real money.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Good grief, when does it end?

The total committed this far is ridiculous and way too much and you know how I feel on supporting this effort. It’s out of control.

In fact I can’t see how they could possibly spend what’s been committed before this possible new bucket in continuing to arm Ukraine at the present weapons supply levels.

 

[Orangeburst]

It's getting comical now. Like it's not even real money.

The narrative is set..this inflation is just supply chains and Putin. I posted a video of a John Hopkins Economist talking to John Stewart..it is printing that causes this inflation.
We would be better off to pay into a GoMe Fund than this nonsense.
But hey..I get to place a Ukrainian sticker on my car while being ****ed in the ass. 1/10 penetration already and it is painful.

But it is worth it..****.

The way I look at it..our Welfare recipients and the poor and middle class will pay the most.
Something has got to give.

 

[Orangeburst]

The total committed this far is ridiculous and way too much and you know how I feel on supporting this effort. It’s out of control.

In fact I can’t see how they could possibly spend what’s been committed before this possible new bucket in continuing to arm Ukraine at the present weapons supply levels.

There is already talk about where all this money is going. Unaccountable. Ukraine is one of the most corrupt gov on Earth . Hunter agrees.

 

[NorthDallas40]

There is already talk about where all this money is going. Unaccountable. Ukraine is one of the most corrupt gov on Earth . Hunter agrees.

I want to say the last committed dollar amount was $65B? But I read something recently they’ve only spent $13.7B since the outbreak of hostilities? At that rate there’s like 2.5 years left in the checking account and this thing can’t last that long. Doesn’t add up.