War in Ukraine

[NorthDallas40]

Thread idiocy is returning. Lucky us.

It’s more fun when the propaganda is active.

 

[KB5252]

Now I know you really are a clown. How many times have we gone into Mexico and either taken land or occupied territory? Are you serious?

When was the last time we staged an invasion of Mexico there stretch?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Russia is playing with fire at this point. Poland has a lot of resentment towards Russia. Russia would be wise to stay as far away from Poland as it can with strikes. LVIV is too close and they are playing with fire.

WTF will Poland do? They are going to do just like they did yesterday and try to pull the rest of NATO in with them. They are no better than Ukraine hiding behind momma's skirt.

But I guess having resentment is enough to crush those Ruskies.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Two air defense missiles hitting that close together seems very unlikely. Almost as unlikely as them being Russian missiles that were knocked off course.

Two separate launchers, you usually don't group these things that close to each other so they cant be hit at the same time, fired at the same target in the air, would have different trajectories even if it was the same battery. They would also have to be "chasing" the Russian missiles, which I am pretty sure you dont do with surface to air missile defense, for their momentum to carry them into Poland.

It is much more probable, like much much much more, that these missiles hit their target. The question is who fired them. I think both sides are assuming the other, and will stick to it, no matter what evidence is provided.

Honestly it’s all up in the air now about exactly how many missiles were involved in the strike. The only verified thing I could find was a local saying they heard a loud whoosh overhead followed by a window shattering and ground shaking explosion

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ukrainians haven't been all that careful or skillful with their air defense, which was of course provided by the West (which adds a certain level of irony).

All of this talk about Russia not having air superiority... and of course Russia running out of missiles, yet we still see these barrages of missile strikes night after night with Ukraine not successfully intercepting them.

Make that make sense.

 

[NorthDallas40]

WTF will Poland do? They are going to do just like they did yesterday and try to pull the rest of NATO in with them. They are no better than Ukraine hiding behind momma's skirt.

But I guess having resentment is enough to crush those Ruskies.

LMAO you stooges ain’t skeered of no Poles whipping your asses are ya Moe!

 

[KB5252]

WTF will Poland do? They are going to do just like they did yesterday and try to pull the rest of NATO in with them. They are no better than Ukraine hiding behind momma's skirt.

But I guess having resentment is enough to crush those Ruskies.

Russian conventional military isn't what it was proposed to be. Even with what little we really knew we gave it much more credit than it turn out it deserved.

Poland is larger, better trained and better equipped than the one in Ukraine that has fought Russia to a stalemate thus far.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

When was the last time we staged an invasion of Mexico there stretch?

About 100 years ago.

But of course now, we have corrupt leadership on this side of the border that wants Mexico to invade us since we don't bother to protect our border yet we concern ourselves far more with the Ukraine-Russia border.

 

[volgr]

The vast majority of Kherson population is still there.

Not even close. Some of the Ukrainian supporters are likely coming back now.

 

[LouderVol]

It's appalling. We are running a deficit to fund a foreign war. Take our tax dollars and then tell us to fend for ourselves. Wake up America.

Well we are running a deficit whether or not Ukraine ever got a penny from us. We are increasing the deficit to fund this foreign war, bit it's not the thing breaking the bank.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Russian conventional military isn't what it was proposed to be. Even with what little we really knew we gave it much more credit than it turn out it deserved.

Poland is larger, better trained and better equipped than the one in Ukraine that has fought Russia to a stalemate thus far.

How do you call it a stalemate when Russia has re-instated 20% of country? And Polish mercenaries are dying by the boatloads right now in Ukraine.

 

[LouderVol]

You just answered your own question. No regional power would allow a rogue state to sit on their border and attack civilians and stage military assets in that country... all while the entire govt is corrupt and controlled by their main adversary.

We have let Russia exist on NATO's borders for decades.

 

[NorthDallas40]

From AP

Poland, NATO say missile strike wasn't a Russian attack

“Ukraine’s defense was launching their missiles in various directions and it is highly probable that one of these missiles unfortunately fell on Polish territory,” said Polish President Andrzej Duda. “There is nothing, absolutely nothing, to suggest that it was an intentional attack on Poland.”

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg, at a meeting of the 30-nation military alliance in Brussels, echoed the preliminary Polish findings, saying: “We have no indication that this was the result of a deliberate attack.”

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

We have let Russia exist on NATO's borders for decades.

NATO moved east to Russia's borders, genius.

 

[DonjoVol]

You know what. I've had enough of Volnation for a week and Wednesday isn't even halfway over. I'll see you guys next Monday.

This will give me some time to finish reading The Master of Ballantrae.

 

[NorthDallas40]

NATO moved east to Russia's borders, genius.

Within the last 24 hours we’ve got a great example of NATO’s restraint in not fabricating a reason to go to war with Russia while we’ve been watching Russian fabrication since 2014 in trying to justify invading and taking territory from Ukraine you ass clown stooge.

 

[NorthDallas40]

You know what. I've had enough of Volnation for a week and Wednesday isn't even halfway over. I'll see you guys next Monday.

This will give me some time to finish reading The Master of Ballantrae.

I don’t blame you I’d run away too if I kept seeing my idiot ass claims destroyed in front of me daily Curly. The amount of propaganda stupidity you stooges put forth and get destroyed is truly amazing.

 

[KB5252]

About 100 years ago.

But of course now, we have corrupt leadership on this side of the border that wants Mexico to invade us since we don't bother to protect our border yet we concern ourselves far more with the Ukraine-Russia border.

Exactly, let's keep things current over 100 years ago isn't really a concern.

It's not an invasion when you invite them to come. I'm talking about military personnel in military aircraft/ vehicles invading American soil. Which I know has happened on at least a few occasions in the last 20 years...... Yet we have not invaded or shot missiles at their cities........

 

[volgr]

All of this talk about Russia not having air superiority... and of course Russia running out of missiles, yet we still see these barrages of missile strikes night after night with Ukraine not successfully intercepting them.

Make that make sense.

I mean, I give them credit for trying. They have taken whatever the West has given them and tried to make it work...but it isn't. These claims about them shooting down like 70-90% of Russian missiles is laughable because Russia then provides evidence from like 20 different sites that were hit and destroyed the night before.

It is the same song different verse since Feb. Ukraine is largely fighting a propaganda war and Russia is fighting some sort of hybrid Special Military Operation that doesn't seem to be all that well thought out and they don't seem to know what to do next since Ukraine isn't engaging in peace talks.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I mean, I give them credit for trying. They have taken whatever the West has given them and tried to make it work...but it isn't. These claims about them shooting down like 70-90% of Russian missiles is laughable because Russia then provides evidence from like 20 different sites that were hit and destroyed the night before.

It is the same song different verse since Feb. Ukraine is largely fighting a propaganda war and Russia is fighting some sort of hybrid Special Military Operation that doesn't seem to be all that well thought out and they don't seem to know what to do next since Ukraine isn't engaging in peace talks.

Link to something other than Russian media making those claims? Because if it was really happening we’d see it on western media since the Russians have been thrown out of these areas being struck and aren’t killing western journalists anymore.

But we do see the daily strikes reported by journalists against civilian targets on a much smaller scale. You referring to those Larry?

 

[rekinhavoc]

Well we are running a deficit whether or not Ukraine ever got a penny from us. We are increasing the deficit to fund this foreign war, bit it's not the thing breaking the bank.

Yes not the sole reason . It irritates me that we have Americans in need and we are giving money to a corrupt country to fight a corrupt country.

 

[volgr]

WTF will Poland do? They are going to do just like they did yesterday and try to pull the rest of NATO in with them. They are no better than Ukraine hiding behind momma's skirt.

But I guess having resentment is enough to crush those Ruskies.

Poland is all talk. They aren't going to get froggy, they know their place and Russia knows this too.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Poland is all talk. They aren't going to get froggy, they know their place and Russia knows this too.

Still waiting on Poland to retake Lviv Larry. Can’t you stooge clowns at least be consistent on your dumbassery FFS?

 

[volgr]

How do you call it a stalemate when Russia has re-instated 20% of country? And Polish mercenaries are dying by the boatloads right now in Ukraine.

A stalemate is their cope.

As for Polish mercs, I don't understand why Poland is allowing their citizens to go die in Ukraine. Seems they would want those guys alive and in their own service. Unless they are undesirable types.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Exactly, let's keep things current over 100 years ago isn't really a concern.

It's not an invasion when you invite them to come. I'm talking about military personnel in military aircraft/ vehicles invading American soil. Which I know has happened on at least a few occasions in the last 20 years...... Yet we have not invaded or shot missiles at their cities........

Just like we were invited into Syria?

Let's keep things current.

Also, even if it was 100 years ago, the logic and reasoning behind it is the same. The US has a history of doing this and justified it at the time no differently than Russia is today.