War in Ukraine

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KB5252 said:
Russia is playing with fire at this point. Poland has a lot of resentment towards Russia. Russia would be wise to stay as far away from Poland as it can with strikes. LVIV is too close and they are playing with fire.
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Also, what I'm learning in this conflict is that Poland has resentment towards several people... not Just Russia. Russia, Germany, Hungary, Norway the EU parliament... not really sure if they aren't using and abusing the Ukrainians. If the Germans could ever get their act together, they need to resolve their issues with Russia and create another Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and address this Poland disaster once and for all.
 
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KB5252 said:
As do you..... What's the point?

As I said before, of you want to have a debate for whataboutisms start a thread. This is about Ukraine and Russia. Let's keep it on topic.
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I've kept it on topic. You just refuse to accept Russia's reasons for acting in the way that they did. Yet, had this been the US, those same reasons would have been OK with many of you. That is where the problem lies.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
From AP

Poland, NATO say missile strike wasn't a Russian attack

“Ukraine’s defense was launching their missiles in various directions and it is highly probable that one of these missiles unfortunately fell on Polish territory,” said Polish President Andrzej Duda. “There is nothing, absolutely nothing, to suggest that it was an intentional attack on Poland.”

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg, at a meeting of the 30-nation military alliance in Brussels, echoed the preliminary Polish findings, saying: “We have no indication that this was the result of a deliberate attack.”
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Good.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I've kept it on topic. You just refuse to accept Russia's reasons for acting in the way that they did. Yet, had this been the US, those same reasons would have been OK with many of you. That is where the problem lies.
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If your topic was spreading Russian propaganda I agree you have Moe. And I categorically reject Russia’s reasons for acting how they did because they are pure bull 💩
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I've kept it on topic. You just refuse to accept Russia's reasons for acting in the way that they did. Yet, had this been the US, those same reasons would have been OK with many of you. That is where the problem lies.
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No, we have a corrupt nation to our south. They have actually invaded US airspace with military aircraft and we've had armed incursions onto us soil by their military......... Yet no invasion.

No situation is exactly the same but this is as close to their situation and interests as it gets. Yet no military response from us. Now if Mexico decided they wanted to strike it alone and seek help from China and we invaded I'd blame the US. #1 for driving then to China in the first place. And #2 by not fixing the issues and keeping the peace.
 
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volgr said:
I mean, I give them credit for trying. They have taken whatever the West has given them and tried to make it work...but it isn't. These claims about them shooting down like 70-90% of Russian missiles is laughable because Russia then provides evidence from like 20 different sites that were hit and destroyed the night before.

It is the same song different verse since Feb. Ukraine is largely fighting a propaganda war and Russia is fighting some sort of hybrid Special Military Operation that doesn't seem to be all that well thought out and they don't seem to know what to do next since Ukraine isn't engaging in peace talks.
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Depends on how many missiles Russia launches doesnt it?

No system is perfect. Even if it was 99% effective Russia could hit 20 sites if they launched close to 2000 missiles.

100 missiles at 80% effective air defense would be 20 hits. That doesn't seem unreasonable since Russia has a huge supply of missiles at their disposal.

And that doesnt even account for any holes in Ukraines defenses.
 
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Does anyone else remember the husky Texan who left the US for Russia who was posting on social media with the Russian forces at the beginning of the war in the North?

Does anyone now whatever happened to him? I don't see any links to anything from him anymore.
 
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volgr said:
A stalemate is their cope.

As for Polish mercs, I don't understand why Poland is allowing their citizens to go die in Ukraine. Seems they would want those guys alive and in their own service. Unless they are undesirable types.
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Dont worry it's just the Satanist Poles. Poland running out of the Nazi Poles must of been why Putin changed his rhetoric.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Well of course you don't care about them. That makes it inconvenient for you to clutch pearls over this situation while not losing a night's sleep over the things that we did.

You guys clearly use double standards. America is good and righteous when we do it. Russia/China/Country X is evil if they do it.
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Link to anyone arguing America was good and righteous in all of these cases?

You are completely misconstruing what people say.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I posted a link from an AP article stating both Poland and NATO have definitively stated the particular missile debris recovered from Poland originated from a Ukrainian S-300 air defense missile fired at a Russian cruise missile. I’ll speculate that references the AWACS data showing the missile track which was reported yesterday.
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Yeah saw that. Glad this ended peacefully.

I would still expect Poland to send some words to Kiev. Maybe we finally get that promised invasion of Lviv!
 
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KB5252 said:
No, we have a corrupt nation to our south. They have actually invaded US airspace with military aircraft and we've had armed incursions onto us soil by their military......... Yet no invasion.

No situation is exactly the same but this is as close to their situation and interests as it gets. Yet no military response from us. Now if Mexico decided they wanted to strike it alone and seek help from China and we invaded I'd blame the US. #1 for driving then to China in the first place. And #2 by not fixing the issues and keeping the peace.
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Recent military incursions? Not worried about the aircraft, but there has been stuff on the ground?

Have a link?
 
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LouderVol said:
Recent military incursions? Not worried about the aircraft, but there has been stuff on the ground?

Have a link?
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I've seen blurbs and stories. I don't know how to post links here but if you Google it some stories come up. One military chopper you'll see a lot but further down some other stories. They believe they are Mexican military running cover for cartel.
 
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LouderVol said:
Yeah saw that. Glad this ended peacefully.

I would still expect Poland to send some words to Kiev. Maybe we finally get that promised invasion of Lviv!
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Oh Poland absolutely should have a stern face to face with Kiev. Ukraine is absolutely in a tough spot but that doesn’t excuse carelessly killing the citizens of one of your staunchest supporters.
 
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What county lobbed missiles into Poland?
Same country that blew up Nord Stream? You remember that little incident the world can't seem to sort out.
 
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KB5252 said:
No, we have a corrupt nation to our south. They have actually invaded US airspace with military aircraft and we've had armed incursions onto us soil by their military......... Yet no invasion.

No situation is exactly the same but this is as close to their situation and interests as it gets. Yet no military response from us. Now if Mexico decided they wanted to strike it alone and seek help from China and we invaded I'd blame the US. #1 for driving then to China in the first place. And #2 by not fixing the issues and keeping the peace.
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You keep saying that... that is a lie and you just admitted it.
 
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You can't make this up. They are still running the 2 biggest rackets on the planet: Ukraine and COVID.

Biden Asks for Over $37 Billion in Emergency Ukraine Aid

The administration's funding request, which comes as lawmakers begin their post-election session, also seeks $9.25 billion in COVID-19 funding to prepare for a possible winter surge and help combat the virus nationwide. Government funding expires in mid-December, and the Ukraine and COVID aid would be part of the package to fund the government through the end of September 2023.
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KB5252 said:
No, we have a corrupt nation to our south. They have actually invaded US airspace with military aircraft and we've had armed incursions onto us soil by their military......... Yet no invasion.

No situation is exactly the same but this is as close to their situation and interests as it gets. Yet no military response from us. Now if Mexico decided they wanted to strike it alone and seek help from China and we invaded I'd blame the US. #1 for driving then to China in the first place. And #2 by not fixing the issues and keeping the peace.
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Also, as I mentioned earlier and you still ignore, the leadership in this country right now has no interest in protecting our border. The worry isn't of the US invading Mexico at any point... but the objective is for them to invade us right now. As far as I'm concerned, your analogy about us invading Mexico in recent history is flawed because of the corrupt leadership we have right now.
 
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