War in Ukraine

[Rasputin_Vol]

 

[hog88]

Because you and several others want us to force the Ukrainians to the negotiating table. We have no right to tell them to do that.

We do since they are a dependent. Or they can just go at it without our financial support.

 

[tvolsfan]

Why is any of that (if true) an American problem?

This is the closest Ras will get to admitting he has no real defense of Russia’s actions.

 

[Velo Vol]

Eight-and-a-half years in a penal colony

 

[Burhead]

How soon before this poor soul comes across an open window?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

How many troops does Wagner (allegedly) have? How many Chechens are there? How many in the LPR/DPR militia?

 

[tvolsfan]

Eight-and-a-half years in a penal colony

"But Zelensky is a dictator, too."

 

[NorthDallas40]

Eight-and-a-half years in a penal colony

Good to see freedom of government oppression in Russian media is alive and well amirite @DonjoVol ?

 

[NorthDallas40]

How many troops does Wagner (allegedly) have? How many Chechens are there? How many in the LPR/DPR militia?

That’s your team you look up the damn roster on your fan page and tell us Moe

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[Velo Vol]

Producer heard saying "cut his mike!"

 

[Paper_Towel]

 

[evillawyer]

This town is now Nazi-free. Congrats.

You know, it's almost like Russia just wants the land and the mineral richness of the Donbas and doesn't really care about the people.

 

[LouderVol]

There's that old Eastern Bloc antisemitism on display

not sure where the antisemitism is. it was an insult, but I at least have never heard of "nit" being particularly derogatory to jews.

 

[LouderVol]

How many troops does Wagner (allegedly) have? How many Chechens are there? How many in the LPR/DPR militia?

The Chechens have claimed to have 50k, but noted as only being about 15k at one time. The militia was allegedly over 100k strong, if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you. There were fewer than 20k in the militia before the invasion, which is why Ukraine was able to push them early in 2014. Wagner varies from 20k to 50k in country. apparently the recent ammo problems have limited their number they can effectively deploy.

 

[BeardedVol]

You know, it's almost like Russia just wants the land and the mineral richness of the Donbas and doesn't really care about the people.

They don't want the adults, but they do want the kids to take back to Russia to raise as Russians instead of Ukrainians.

 

[NorthDallas40]

This is awesome and pretty damn spot on with the current situation

 

[LadyVolette]

They don't want the adults, but they do want the kids to take back to Russia to raise as Russians instead of Ukrainians.

It’s all so weird, I just feel like there is more to the story or something that we, as Americans, don’t get.. that, or it’s really just over resources or something

 

[NorthDallas40]

It’s all so weird, I just feel like there is more to the story or something that we, as Americans, don’t get.. that, or it’s really just over resources or something

It’s fairly straight forward when you look at the data. Or the abduction of children is anyway. The Russian population is in clear decline due to falling birth rates and emigration to avoid the authoritarian government and their war policy

The war itself is nothing more than a land and resource grab.

Russia’s population is in historic decline from emigration, war and plunging birth rate | Fortune

 

[LadyVolette]

It’s fairly straight forward when you look at the data. Or the abduction of children is anyway. The Russian population is in clear decline due to falling birth rates and emigration to avoid the authoritarian government and their war policy

The war itself is nothing more than a land and resource grab.

Russia’s population is in historic decline from emigration, war and plunging birth rate | Fortune

Interesting.. it almost seems like maybe we should stay out of it

 

[NorthDallas40]

Interesting.. it almost seems like maybe we should stay out of it

Yep. In1994 we absolutely should have kept our mouths shut. Yet alas we did not.

 

[LadyVolette]

Yep. In1994 we absolutely should have kept our mouths shut. Yet alas we did not.

Bosnia?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Bosnia?

No I’m talking about Ukraine only. Or are you bringing up Bosnia?

 

[LadyVolette]

No I’m talking about Ukraine only. Or are you bringing up Bosnia?

Bosnia conflict was 1994 that’s where my mind went .. the Baltic/Slavic/Russian stuff has always been a mess over there and probably always will be, I bet.. they are all sh!t starters imo

 

[NorthDallas40]

Bosnia conflict was 1994 that’s where my mind went .. the Baltic/Slavic/Russian stuff has always been a mess over there and probably always will be, I bet.. they are all sh!t starters imo

We stuck our nose in it back in the early 90’s to get Ukraine to give up at that time the world’s third largest nuclear weapons cache after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. If you’re interested look back over the last three pages or so on the details of our negotiations with Ukraine and Russia on it.