War in Ukraine

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BuT RuSsIa Is IsOlAtEd....what a bunch of idiots some of you are. Another total disaster in foreign policy. Russia is winning this war, bigly, on all fronts.

 
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Volsdeep4 said:
Why can’t it ever be both? Usa and Russia are bad? Why be such a blow hard for one cause rather than just acknowledge the truth. Any powerful nation will do what they want to get what they want.
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Because Russia is acting rationally to a building a threat in their backyard.
 
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LouderVol said:
those two things aren't exclusive. Do you really think Russia wasn't arming and training people during the Minsk agreements? both Ukraine and Russia broke the actual Minsk agreement, and both Ukraine/West and Russia used the ceasefire as a chance to rearm and prepare for the next fight.

this is why you can't be taken seriously, you only present a one sided opinion.

and I specifically distinguished between who did what.
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I think Russia planned on living up to Minsk until they realized Ukraine wasn't.
 
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volgr said:
You think Russia, who is outshelling Ukraine 10:1, as claimed by Ukraine last fall it is likely worse than that now, and who has air superiority over Ukraine...is dying in equal numbers to Ukrainians? Are you nuts? This doesn't even take into account the fact Russian soldiers are better trained and using better weapons. This is why you see a 7:1 kill ratio in favor of Russia and is more likely 10:1 in Bakhmut...and no, that isn't counting civilians. That is only counting military fighters. Russia struck 9 barracks the other night, I think Ukraine struck 1 a few days ago. Even that is lopsided.

Anyone discounting the 7:1 ratio (which is too low in current fighting) is doing so while ignoring all evidence on the ground.
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what evidence on the ground? Russia hasn't even taken Bakhmut in 9 months. that evidence on the ground says things aren't going so well for Russia.

and what air dominance? You barely hear about Russia flying any air missions. they are relying on drones and missiles. And supposedly Ukraine just launched a drone attack at the Kremlin, so how is that for air dominance?

and yes Russia is outshelling Ukraine. They having to take the mass fire approach to get any type of effect. Meanwhile Ukraine is using western tactics to call in specific strikes that are far more accurate with the help of drones. so they don't need to fire as many shots to have an effect.

what happened to Ukraine being NATO armed and trained? Now suddenly Russia was able to call up 500k "better" troops than what they already had in the field? That was obvious bs from the start. those 500k are going to be the same quality as what Ukraine has to defend with. No nation has 500k battle ready civilians just laying around. I don't see how you can argue Russia having to rely on T-64s means they are better equipped.

and you are completely ignoring the actual attacks and strategy the Russians are using. Mass attacks that are often driven back with nothing accomplished. Thats where most of the losses are going to come from, the actual fighting. And as even you have admitted that type of warfare favors the defender, remember you arguing Russian "should" have 3:1 to successfully attack an urban area? and then Russia had to call up 500k before they could launch a coordinated assault to finally, almost, take the town?
 
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volgr said:
I think Russia planned on living up to Minsk until they realized Ukraine wasn't.
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sure Jan. why do you assume that? Did they stop arming the rebels? Did they pull their troops away from the front lines as was agreed upon?

Both sides signed, sat there, saw the other side wasn't moving either, and then restarted their same acts.
 
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volgr said:
BuT RuSsIa Is IsOlAtEd....what a bunch of idiots some of you are. Another total disaster in foreign policy. Russia is winning this war, bigly, on all fronts.

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Exactly how will this supposed new currency work? China, Russia, et al are going to convert to it, like Europe did to the Euro?
 
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KB5252 said:
You really think whatever that was is an attempt to kill Putin?

LOL, I gave you way too much credit!
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I think it certainly could be perceived to be. I noticed you didn't answer my question.

Also, I don't think most of the American public understand how dire the situation is with our gov't basically doing everything it can to provoke WW3. We really do deserve the humbling that is coming.
 
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volgr said:
I think it certainly could be perceived to be. I noticed you didn't answer my question.

Also, I don't think most of the American public understand how dire the situation is with our gov't basically doing everything it can to provoke WW3. We really do deserve the humbling that is coming.
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If Putin is killed by who?

We aren't doing much of anything, weak innefectual leadership is why we are where we are. Not because we are doing too much. China and their Arab partners along with Russia are the aggressors at the moment. And they are successful because of their aggressiveness or their attachment to a powerful aggressor in the case of Russia and the other Arab states.

Decades of failed foreign policy, combined with a weak current leader........ And here we are
 
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LouderVol said:
what evidence on the ground? Russia hasn't even taken Bakhmut in 9 months. that evidence on the ground says things aren't going so well for Russia.
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Why would Russia take Bakhmut quickly? It was heavily defended which means if Russia tried to take it too quickly they would have lost an extraordinary amount of men. Instead they took it slowly and methodically. Creating basically a turkey shoot scenario for poor Ukrainians. Due to this, they were happy to allow Zelensky to keep throwing more men into their meat grinder. Ukraine losses in Bakhmut alone have been very high compared with Russia. I don't know where you are getting your info....actually, I do, from western propaganda outlets. Good luck. This is why you are always wrong.

and what air dominance? You barely hear about Russia flying any air missions. they are relying on drones and missiles. And supposedly Ukraine just launched a drone attack at the Kremlin, so how is that for air dominance?
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As the intel leaks pointed out, Ukraine's air defense is just about gone. Not that it was all that effective anyway as it was a hodgepodge of equipment, but as Russian missiles have shown over the last few months, when they want to strike a target, they can and do. However, as was shown the other day in Russia's latest missile blitz, it is becoming much easier. They hit 9 barracks and 2 huge arm depots. This isn't even arguable at this point.

and yes Russia is outshelling Ukraine. They having to take the mass fire approach to get any type of effect. Meanwhile Ukraine is using western tactics to call in specific strikes that are far more accurate with the help of drones. so they don't need to fire as many shots to have an effect.
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Cope. Once again confession through projection. What little Ukraine can muster to fire is done in a haphazard approach. From time to time they will receive good western intel and hit something of value but it is rare. Even the recent oil depot strike wasn't important to Russia militarily.

what happened to Ukraine being NATO armed and trained?
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Yeah, they were. Most of them are now dead or injured. This is another reason, going back to Bakhmut, that Ukraine is seeing rising kill ratios in Bakhmut closer to 10:1 or more. These folks picked up off the street against their will, are being given 4 weeks of training at best (mostly outside of Ukraine) and shipped back in to the frontlines with limited equipment and no experience. It's effing grotesque the US allows this to continue, but this is what the US has become, a death cult.

and you are completely ignoring the actual attacks and strategy the Russians are using. Mass attacks that are often driven back with nothing accomplished. Thats where most of the losses are going to come from, the actual fighting. And as even you have admitted that type of warfare favors the defender, remember you arguing Russian "should" have 3:1 to successfully attack an urban area? and then Russia had to call up 500k before they could launch a coordinated assault to finally, almost, take the town?
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My claim was from early in the war, when Ukraine did have a well trained and equipped military. That is no longer applicable. They are being demilitarized very quickly. Even with those well trained men, Russia was taking cities like Mauripol with roughly even numbers. Tell me again how badly Russian troops have performed. As I have said, I don't know if the US could have taken Mauripol or Bakhmut much better than Russia. They have made plenty of mistakes, mostly from bad assumptions at the start of the war, but overall their performance has been impressive.
 
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