War in Ukraine

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norrislakevol said:
I never agree with you politically, but this is a good take. The entire battlefield will change over the next 3 years.
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Yeah I'm a problem for people that want to categorize me. Extreme social liberal, believe in balanced budgets but also believe higher taxes on high income earners have to be part of that. Believe in the social safety net and an activist liberal Supreme Court.

But then I'm a retired Naval Aviator (I'm sure you're all pleased to hear I got punched out by a Marine DI on my first day of AOCS) and aggressive proponent for a strong military. My family has served during every war or major conflict all the way back to and including the Civil War (in the Union militia in Cades Cove I am proud to say). We're not chickenhawks.

I prefer to analyze on an issue by issue basis, but from the perspective Repubs are usually wrong.

Go ahead guys, hate on that.
 
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evillawyer said:
And this is the regime our Putinistas envy ....

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Come down sweetheart. We aren’t far off from that. Put some “hate” speech on the grave of Obama’s mama and see how that works out for you. Sure it varies by state but would probably earn you some penalties.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
After this counteroffensive fails, what will be (or should be) next?

Peace talks? Or more escalation?
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We will see what happens. Last time the Ukrainians went on the offensive they liberated Kherson and pushed the Russians back to the border in Kharkiv. That was without Western tanks and IFVs and fresh NATO trained brigades.
 
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volfanhill said:
How does the invading country get to biatch about escalation? You are (insert word). Good god. Like totally unbelievable this level of stupid exists
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Yes, in Ras' warped mind, if a woman fights back while being raped she's just escalating the encounter. She should really just work to find a compromise with the rapist.
 
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evillawyer said:
Yes, in Ras' warped mind, if a woman fights back while being raped she's just escalating the encounter. She should really just work to find a compromise with the rapist.
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John McCain is rolling in his grave at his party becoming a bunch of Russian sympathizers.

I suppose they’re all willing to follow their Daddy Donny right into Traitor Town.

Real patriots know that Putin is an enemy.
 
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Don't think the show has started yet. Institute for Study of War isn't seeing that in the action reports. Scale too small. These are probably probing assaults, trying to identify weak/ strong points in the Orc lines.

You know the Ruskies are all aware that they are about to be the object of massive assaults. Can you imagine the psychological effects of just sitting there for 3-4 weeks wondering if it's your area where the big hit will come? Especially since those troops are starting to see the technological advantages of the NATO weapons over their own. There was one mainline Russian unit that broke and ran at Bakhmut Wednesday retreating almost 3 km before Wagner troops rushed in and stabilized the lines at a reported high cost in Wagner personnel.

My guess is that every time the Ukrainians send out a recon in strength the Russians piss all over themselves and run.

You know, the Russian tank corps commanders were actually pretty good by the end of WW2. They schooled the Germans in the Battle of Kursk. Don't you know those guys are rolling in their graves over the current Russian tank corps.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
After this counteroffensive fails, what will be (or should be) next?

Peace talks? Or more escalation?
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that remains up to both sides. If both sides maintain terms the other will not accept there will be more fighting. thats on both sides.

The Russians didn't push peace after their "big" winter offensive. depending on how much/little Ukraine is able to retake, not sure why they would accept peace that isn't on their terms.
 
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WBO said:
Don't think the show has started yet. Institute for Study of War isn't seeing that in the action reports. Scale too small. These are probably probing assaults, trying to identify weak/ strong points in the Orc lines.

You know the Ruskies are all aware that they are about to be the object of massive assaults. Can you imagine the psychological effects of just sitting there for 3-4 weeks wondering if it's your area where the big hit will come? Especially since those troops are starting to see the technological advantages of the NATO weapons over their own. There was one mainline Russian unit that broke and ran at Bakhmut Wednesday retreating almost 3 km before Wagner troops rushed in and stabilized the lines at a reported high cost in Wagner personnel.

My guess is that every time the Ukrainians send out a recon in strength the Russians piss all over themselves and run.

You know, the Russian tank corps commanders were actually pretty good by the end of WW2. They schooled the Germans in the Battle of Kursk. Don't you know those guys are rolling in their graves over the current Russian tank corps.
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I don't know if I would say "schooled" for Kursk. They had twice as many tanks, 4 times the artillery, 3x the number of men. Russia lost as many tanks as the Germans, and a lot more soldiers. months to prepare for the defense, and a German strategy bungled by Hitler.
 
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benholt06 said:
John McCain is rolling in his grave at his party becoming a bunch of Russian sympathizers.

I suppose they’re all willing to follow their Daddy Donny right into Traitor Town.

Real patriots know that Putin is an enemy.
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John McCain isn't the man he's made out to be.

There are plenty of threats.
 
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