War in Ukraine

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Burhead said:
Ukraine does not have the resources or combat power to ever seriously threaten the Russian motherland. You know this and I know this no matter how much nato support they received.
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You know this. I know this. Most people with common sense know this. But yet, the Obama and Biden Administrations still pushed for this conflict to happen. Its one thing for them to insert themselves in 2013/2014 in Kyiv, but after Debaltseve, the Kyiv Regime, German and France should have wisely implemented the Minsk ceasefire agreements over the years leading up to Feb. 24th 2022.
 
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Burhead said:
Ukraine does not have the resources or combat power to ever seriously threaten the Russian motherland. You know this and I know this no matter how much nato support they received.
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Let me readdress this. The only way that NATO/US can remotely level the playing field would be for them to place nukes in Ukraine. Let's not downplay that scenario. Obviously, Ukraine cannot compete with Russia in conventional warfare.
 
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volfanhill said:
Not butt hurt at all. You asking dumb questions is an every day occurrence. You pretending like there is some coverup is absurd and should be mocked for how dumb it is.
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Lol, yeah I don't keep up with the war or lick zelensky's boots like you. So that's why I asked a question. You delusional Zelenskyites are comical.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
This all started in Ukraine when the US/Obama State Department orchestrated a coup on Russia's border. If Putin was hellbent on grabbing land, he would have done so in 2014 when the Donbas had their referenda soon after the Maidan. And you know that.

Hell, if Putin was hellbent on grabbing land, he really could have done so in 2008 when Sakaashvili was stirring things up in Georgia. What would have stopped Russia from grabbing the entire country of Georgia at that moment? Or Kazakhstan in January 2022? Easy-peasy land grab opportunity.
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All this ******** has been debunked many times. We are under no obligation to accept your distorted reality.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How do you take a city quickly when you are engaged in door-to-door fighting?
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Weren't they liberating those places so the 90% pro Russian rezidents could live "free". You'd think the 10 percenters wouldn't put up much of a fight. Seems like there are some premises that need checking.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Hiroshima? To send a message to the Soviets.
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That could have been secondary, but Hiroshima and Nagasaki were intended as messages to Japanese Army hardliners who refused to surrender when all was lost. The damages were actually less than the firebombing of Tokyo, but the message at Hiroshima and Nagasaki left no doubt that Japan could not win and saved far more live than those two bombs took. Read up on the Emperor's recorded surrender message and the attempt to stop it by Japanese Army hardliners.
 
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scooty_vol said:
Lol, yeah I don't keep up with the war or lick zelensky's boots like you. So that's why I asked a question. You delusional Zelenskyites are comical.
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I can't decide who has more credibility--all of Western and Eastern Europe save Hungary, plus the U.S., Canada, Australia, Japan, Korea and other nations.....or the murderous thug who runs Russia plus a few neo-fascist right-wingers in America. Tough one....
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
If Russia was had 100k+ KIA and retreating to Vladivostok, I'm sure the mood would be more somber.

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Again comrade, no one is accusing you russians of being smart.

The fact you're in here gloating about a mercenary grouptaking (questionably) a city 75 miles from the russian border after a year is not the flex you think it is. It really just reinforces how absolutley pathetic the russian army and Russia really are.

Of course, you won't address this but it's still fun to mock you and your mouth breathing motherland.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Well, there have been been numerous estimates from some elite intelligence agencies, but what is your source?

To be clear, there is no question Ukraine is taking big casualties as well as Russia.
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I think I saw it reported on Maria Bartiromo's show. She was discussing with someone the re-adjusted numbers but I only caught the tail end. I was hoping to find the clip but I couldn't. So I quickly googled if it was something just widely reported. We know how that goes.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So 48 missiles in 2 days. That is roughly 10% of Lockheed-Martin's annual production. This is not sustainable.

Lockheed Martin Showcases Patriot Integration with Mk 41 VLS - Naval News.
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Sure it is. There are PAC-2 and PAC-3 missiles delivered all across NATO. There are decades of PAC-2 stockpiles. Raytheon is prime up thru PAC-2 and LMC for PAC-3. I’m sure whatever capacity LMC can’t fill Raytheon will happily take up the slack.

Meanwhile Russia is trying to find enough old tube audio amplifiers they can get parts from since nobody will sell them electronics. This is why refitted tanks and showing up with decades old analog imaging sensors instead of their most current digital design. Thales won’t sell them the focal plane array dewers😂
 
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turbovol said:
I can't decide who has more credibility--all of Western and Eastern Europe save Hungary, plus the U.S., Canada, Australia, Japan, Korea and other nations.....or the murderous thug who runs Russia plus a few neo-fascist left-wingers in America. Tough one....
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FYP... Fascism is leftist ideology
 
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tvolsfan said:
Well, there have been been numerous estimates from some elite intelligence agencies, but what is your source?

To be clear, there is no question Ukraine is taking big casualties as well as Russia.
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250k-350k Ukrainian KIA and multiply that by 2X to get the missing/injured.

So anywhere from 750k to 1 million+ Ukrainian KIA and wounded/missing.
 
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AM64 said:
Weren't they liberating those places so the 90% pro Russian rezidents could live "free". You'd think the 10 percenters wouldn't put up much of a fight. Seems like there are some premises that need checking.
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Residents were not (mostly) the ones fighting. They mostly evacuated months ago.
 
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turbovol said:
I can't decide who has more credibility--all of Western and Eastern Europe save Hungary, plus the U.S., Canada, Australia, Japan, Korea and other nations.....or the murderous thug who runs Russia plus a few neo-fascist right-wingers in America. Tough one....
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That’s quite a list of ignorant Zelensky knob gobblers
 
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