War in Ukraine

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#67,451
Burhead said:
Prigozhin may get security guarantees but there will be reprisals against the families of the average Wagner fighters by the FSB after all of this dies down.
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How many of his fighters are going to stop following him now too. No details of the deal have been released but how can this go forward with Shoigu and Gerazimov both still in their roles.
 
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Siege of Moscow
Wagner = Freedom fighters in need of US and Kyiv support
Drunk Russians (Not racist at all)
Russians stealing cherries from "Ukraine"
"Plans love silence"
Merkavas
Russian spy dolphins
Homemade drones
"shaping operations"
F/A-18s
Spring/Summer Counteroffensive
"2nd best army in Ukraine"
11th sanctions package
F-16s
F-35s
Iron Dome
Bakhmut Holds/Fortress Bakhmut
Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant Offensive
Northern and Southwestern flanks near Artemovsk (Bakhmut)
Belgorod Offensive
Bakhmut Flanks Offensive
Bakhmut is not strategically important
"A gas station masquerading as a country"
Storm Shadow
ATACMS
MALD
"Do you want Ukraine to win?"
Game changers
"for as long as it takes"
Arrest Putin in South Africa
Moskva
James Vasquez
Depleted uranium
Shovels
Viagra to rape women
20k tons of ammo in Transnistria
"investment"
"bully"
"unprovoked"
Leopard tanks
Babushka with pickle jar
North Korean munitions
War crime tribunals
Patrick Lancaster's staged scenes
Steven Seagal is a Pootin Puppet
Banning Orthodox Priests and News Media Outlets are no big deal
These numbers come from the Ukrainian MOD so they have to be true.
Sack of Potatoes
Smooth Brain
Homer
Newsweek is GOP and Russian propaganda
Mobile crematoriums
Iranian drones
Stealing chips from washing machines/refrigerators/televisions
No fly zones/air superiority
HIMARS
North Korean troops
Finland and Sweden join NATO
Strike on Wagner Group HQ
Patriot missiles
Oil price cap
Kherson Kherson Kherson
MH-17
"f*** the EU.."
Kerch Bridge
Article 5
100k Russians dead
Institute for the Study of War
"Ruble will be rubble"
Million Man Ukrainian army
McDonalds/IKEA/Coca Cola/H&M/Louis Vuitton
Long lines at ATMs
Eggs
Russia running out of missiles/drones
Russia can't fight in winter/frostbite
Polish Mig-29s
Javelina
Azovstal "evacuation"
Stingers
40 mile caravan outside of Kyiv
Switchblade drones
Ghost of Kiev
Obese General
Kremlin Coup
Blood Cancer
Parkinsons
A-10 Warthogs
Abrams tanks
I saw it on the evening news
It must be true if it's on Twitter
100 Billion will bring Russia to its knees
Snake Island
Meat grinder
Ukrainian Nazis are no big deal
Lukashenko's breath mints
Tooth Fairy
Soviet Union still exists
Trailer Park of the world
Pootin
Pootin Stooges
Larry Moe Curly
Bradley fighting vehicles
Strykers
Challengers
"Just a few weeks of training"
Maintenance will be done in Germany
China bad
 
#67,453
#67,453
IF this is true and Wagner turns around, Prigozhin is completely naive.

Putin is buying time. Prigozhin's biggest asset is the element of surprise and disorganization of the Russian government.

The idea that Putin and Prigozhin can coexist peacefully after this is utterly absurd. There is only room for one. In short, if Prigozhin pulls back, he is signing his own death warrant.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
IF this is true and Wagner turns around, Prigozhin is completely naive.

Putin is buying time. Prigozhin's biggest asset is the element of surprise and disorganization of the Russian government.

The idea that Putin and Prigozhin can coexist peacefully after this is utterly absurd. There is only room for one. In short, if Prigozhin pulls back, he is signing his own death warrant.
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And throw Shoigu and Gerazimov in there too. They’re going to go after Prigozhin or visa versa… or both.
 
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Burhead said:
Prigozhin may get security guarantees but there will be reprisals against the families of the average Wagner fighters by the FSB after all of this dies down.
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These guys were on a highway driving like AC and OJ to Moscow for how many hours? A drone strike or helicopter attack would have shutdown that convoy in 10 minutes.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
NetBlocks, a nonprofit organization that monitors internet censorship, reported late Friday that at least five Russian internet service providers were blocking all access to news aggregator Google News. The internet as a whole remained functional Saturday evening, monitors said.
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Isn't that the first thing the White House did? It was a big emphasis the first day here.
 
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Putin brokering this deal projects weakness. But he had to do it. If that column reached the outskirts of Moscow Putin would have found an open window to slip out of, it's the way Russia works.

This is hilarious. Russia is a trailer park nation.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
How many of his fighters are going to stop following him now too. No details of the deal have been released but how can this go forward with Shoigu and Gerazimov both still in their roles.
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Some leaks I've seen said Shoigu and Gerazimov will be removed and Wagner redeployed from Ukraine to focus on African operations.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
These guys were on a highway driving like AC and OJ to Moscow for how many hours? A drone strike or helicopter attack would have shutdown that convoy in 10 minutes.
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LOL, that's what a competent military would do......... But that isn't what they have.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
How many of his fighters are going to stop following him now too. No details of the deal have been released but how can this go forward with Shoigu and Gerazimov both still in their roles.
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Prigozhin didn't just decide to turn around. He got something. We may never know what it was, but he got something in exchange for turning around. And even if he got what he wanted, he's going to have to watch his back from now on. And putin just lost the narrative that he's in complete control. He'll have to watch his back from now on too.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
IF this is true and Wagner turns around, Prigozhin is completely naive.

Putin is buying time. Prigozhin's biggest asset is the element of surprise and disorganization of the Russian government.

The idea that Putin and Prigozhin can coexist peacefully after this is utterly absurd. There is only room for one. In short, if Prigozhin pulls back, he is signing his own death warrant.
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There isn't room for two kings that I agree.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Prigozhin didn't just decide to turn around. He got something. We may never know what it was, but he got something in exchange for turning around. And even if he got what he wanted, he's going to have to watch his back from now on. And putin just lost the narrative that he's in complete control. He'll have to watch his back from now on too.
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Oh no doubt. To all of that. This was(is?) a serious threat to Pootin’s rule without a doubt.
 
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#67,472
clarksvol00 said:
Prigozhin didn't just decide to turn around. He got something. We may never know what it was, but he got something in exchange for turning around. And even if he got what he wanted, he's going to have to watch his back from now on. And putin just lost the narrative that he's in complete control. He'll have to watch his back from now on too.
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While I don't disagree, the notion of what happens down the road is somewhat immaterial to the now.

In the short term there's a chance that reducing the tensions between Wagner and Putin is a bad thing for Ukraine. If they coordinate better in the short term or Wagner is back fully on the team then a distraction from the last several months is temporarily removed.
 
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KB5252 said:
Putin brokering this deal projects weakness. But he had to do it. If that column reached the outskirts of Moscow Putin would have found an open window to slip out of, it's the way Russia works.

This is hilarious. Russia is a trailer park nation.
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100% White Trash capital of the World.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Siege of Moscow
Wagner = Freedom fighters in need of US and Kyiv support
Drunk Russians (Not racist at all)
Russians stealing cherries from "Ukraine"
"Plans love silence"
Merkavas
Russian spy dolphins
Homemade drones
"shaping operations"
F/A-18s
Spring/Summer Counteroffensive
"2nd best army in Ukraine"
11th sanctions package
F-16s
F-35s
Iron Dome
Bakhmut Holds/Fortress Bakhmut
Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant Offensive
Northern and Southwestern flanks near Artemovsk (Bakhmut)
Belgorod Offensive
Bakhmut Flanks Offensive
Bakhmut is not strategically important
"A gas station masquerading as a country"
Storm Shadow
ATACMS
MALD
"Do you want Ukraine to win?"
Game changers
"for as long as it takes"
Arrest Putin in South Africa
Moskva
James Vasquez
Depleted uranium
Shovels
Viagra to rape women
20k tons of ammo in Transnistria
"investment"
"bully"
"unprovoked"
Leopard tanks
Babushka with pickle jar
North Korean munitions
War crime tribunals
Patrick Lancaster's staged scenes
Steven Seagal is a Pootin Puppet
Banning Orthodox Priests and News Media Outlets are no big deal
These numbers come from the Ukrainian MOD so they have to be true.
Sack of Potatoes
Smooth Brain
Homer
Newsweek is GOP and Russian propaganda
Mobile crematoriums
Iranian drones
Stealing chips from washing machines/refrigerators/televisions
No fly zones/air superiority
HIMARS
North Korean troops
Finland and Sweden join NATO
Strike on Wagner Group HQ
Patriot missiles
Oil price cap
Kherson Kherson Kherson
MH-17
"f*** the EU.."
Kerch Bridge
Article 5
100k Russians dead
Institute for the Study of War
"Ruble will be rubble"
Million Man Ukrainian army
McDonalds/IKEA/Coca Cola/H&M/Louis Vuitton
Long lines at ATMs
Eggs
Russia running out of missiles/drones
Russia can't fight in winter/frostbite
Polish Mig-29s
Javelina
Azovstal "evacuation"
Stingers
40 mile caravan outside of Kyiv
Switchblade drones
Ghost of Kiev
Obese General
Kremlin Coup
Blood Cancer
Parkinsons
A-10 Warthogs
Abrams tanks
I saw it on the evening news
It must be true if it's on Twitter
100 Billion will bring Russia to its knees
Snake Island
Meat grinder
Ukrainian Nazis are no big deal
Lukashenko's breath mints
Tooth Fairy
Soviet Union still exists
Trailer Park of the world
Pootin
Pootin Stooges
Larry Moe Curly
Bradley fighting vehicles
Strykers
Challengers
"Just a few weeks of training"
Maintenance will be done in Germany
China bad
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You might wanna confer with your comrades in Moscow who have been building defensive fortifications feverishly...
 
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