War in Ukraine

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NorthDallas40 said:
Acknowledging they are a dependent doesn’t absolve us of a responsibility to assist. Rather it reinforces that responsibility. Not to ally level but if we the US recognize them as dependent on US then we have obligations
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If Biden is on the ballot this November, I don't expect you to be doing nothing other than praising him. He'll be the only candidate that aligns with your Ukrainian foreign policy.
 
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tnmarktx said:
If Biden is on the ballot this November, I don't expect you to be doing nothing other than praising him. He'll be the only candidate that aligns with your Ukrainian foreign policy.
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LMAO sure thing that’s the obvious take away. I know you’re gonna hate to hear this but there is broad bipartisan support for Ukraine extending to even the GOP POTUS candidates as we saw in the debate.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
LMAO sure thing that’s the obvious take away. I know you’re gonna hate to hear this but there is broad bipartisan support for Ukraine extending to even the GOP POTUS candidates as we saw in the debate.
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Correction, there is broad uniparty support for the Ukraine foreign policy. There is broad support from the GOP voting base against your and Joe's Ukrainian foreign policy.
 
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tnmarktx said:
Correction, there is broad uniparty support for the Ukraine foreign policy. There is broad support from the GOP voting base against your and Joe's Ukrainian foreign policy.
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Keep selling girl keep selling 😂

You do know there will be more than two choices on the ballot in Nov 2024 right?
 
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tnmarktx said:
Correction, there is broad uniparty support for the Ukraine foreign policy. There is broad support from the GOP voting base against your and Joe's Ukrainian foreign policy.
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The average American has the attention span of a gnat forgive me if I don’t think they grasp the importance of degrading the military of a geopolitical foe of the United States.
 
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tnmarktx said:
You think one uniparty candidate will make it? You do realize it doesn't matter what's next to their name, right? It's actually what they're for.
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All I know is I won’t be rationalizing that I have to vote for a dog **** candidate like Trump or Biden. Neither will get my vote in the general of that I am certain. Good luck with your mental gymnastics try not to pull something.
 
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MontyPython said:
Never said there was a treaty. Obviously.

In reality, had the US and our allies not provided assistance to Ukraine, Russia would have taken over the country. That would have been de facto giving Russia land before the fighting started.
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So not like your badly stretched Chamberlain example of appeasement at all....
 
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tnmarktx said:
It's absolutely about supporting the uniparty. Putin and Russia's army are absolutely no threat with or without control of Ukraine. That's what makes the statement that Russia is our biggest enemy such a lie.
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Wow, you really are this ignorant of current events aren't you?

Russia has been waging a hybrid war via Belarus against Poland for years now.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Belarus dictator turns hybrid war into humanitarian crisis

By weaponizing migrants in his hybrid war against the European Union, Belarus dictator Alyaksandr Lukashenka has created an escalating humanitarian crisis on his country's border with Poland.
www.atlanticcouncil.org www.atlanticcouncil.org
 
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Burhead said:
To be fair some of us have been supporting Ukraine since 2014 and Russia’s first invasion. The fact we didn’t challenge Putin after 2008 Georgia lead us to 2014 Crimea and our weak response to that lead to February 2022.
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I haven't been able to find that thread. I have wanted to find it because I know there are some golden comments from Ras and Pacer in there it would be interesting to revisit.
 
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LouderVol said:
I haven't been able to find that thread. I have wanted to find it because I know there are some golden comments from Ras and Pacer in there it would be interesting to revisit.
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Thread 1

Ukraine Protests

Ostensibly over the government's refusal to move toward the European Union, though undoubtedly there's more to the story. Angry about Kiev's policy U-turn away from integration with Europe, hundreds of demonstrators lined trash bins, metal containers and flower pots to stop employees from...
www.volnation.com

Thread 2

 
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Burhead said:
The average American has the attention span of a gnat forgive me if I don’t think they grasp the importance of degrading the military of a geopolitical foe of the United States.
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It's laughable that you think the foreign policy in regards to Ukraine is advancing anything other than the corrupt elements of our government and furthering the suffering of the Ukrainian and Russian populous as well as ours for that matter.
 
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tnmarktx said:
It's laughable that you think the foreign policy in regards to Ukraine is advancing anything other than the corrupt elements of our government and furthering the suffering of the Ukrainian and Russian populous as well as ours for that matter.
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So Ukrainians should just surrender their country, and allow themselves to be subjugated by Russia?

That's what you'd also advise America to do, were it ever invaded by a foreign power?
 
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tnmarktx said:
It's laughable that you think the foreign policy in regards to Ukraine is advancing anything other than the corrupt elements of our government and furthering the suffering of the Ukrainian and Russian populous as well as ours for that matter.
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I really don’t care about the suffering of the Russian people. If they don’t want to suffer they should overthrow the regime in the Kremlin.
 
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tnmarktx said:
It's absolutely about supporting the uniparty. Putin and Russia's army are absolutely no threat with or without control of Ukraine. That's what makes the statement that Russia is our biggest enemy such a lie.
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So if they rolled into a NATO country you think they'd be so ineffective we can ignore it? Makes literally no sense.
 
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Burhead said:
To be fair some of us have been supporting Ukraine since 2014 and Russia’s first invasion. The fact we didn’t challenge Putin after 2008 Georgia lead us to 2014 Crimea and our weak response to that lead to February 2022.
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We ae not the ones to blame. Blame the feckless Europeans who let it happen in their backyard.
 
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