War in Ukraine

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Ttucke11 said:
Read the article I linked. If you don't think we interfered you're the ignorant one.
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Heard enough of your misguided rambling ********, Junior.

From the article - which clearly you didn't read - the author states:

"Visiting the Maidan on December 5, she [the US Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Nuland] handed out cookies to demonstrators and expressed support for their cause."

GOOD LORD! She handed out cookies!?!?!? Putin should have launched the nukes immediately.

The author goes on to state:

"It was startling to have diplomatic representatives of a foreign country—and a country that routinely touts the need to respect democratic processes and the sovereignty of other nations—to be scheming about removing an elected government and replacing it with officials meriting U.S. approval."

The author then cites 'proof' that United States' representatives were 'scheming' since they spoke to one another on a *private phone call* about whom they opined would serve as a better President of Ukraine.

Finally, the author concludes:

"The Nuland‐Pyatt telephone conversation and other actions confirm that the United States was considerably more than a passive observer to the turbulence. Instead, U.S. officials were blatantly meddling in Ukraine."

Private phone conversations between United States Government officials = "BLATENT MEDDLING". Got it.

and

"It is no wonder that Russia reacted badly to the unconstitutional ouster of an elected, pro‐Russian government—an ouster that occurred not only with Washington’s blessing, but apparently with its assistance."

"Apparently?!?!" So the author doesn't actually believe or provide proof of ACTUAL assistance. Oops!

So help us all understand... when you stated in your prior posts that:

"We helped push out the old regime in 2014 and installed who we wanted."

Was it (1) the cookies; or (2) was it the the two Americans talking to one another about who they thought would be a better President that actually overthrew Yanukovych and installed Yatsenyuk?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Let's run with that. Then is it realistic to assert that Russia will take over Europe?

You can't have it both ways. You can't say Russia is getting their azzes kicked in Ukraine and simultaneously say Russia is going to take over Europe.
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Their military isn't good enough to do that. They could pick off some smaller countries though.
 
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MontyPython said:
Heard enough of your misguided rambling ********, Junior.

From the article - which clearly you didn't read - the author states:

"Visiting the Maidan on December 5, she [the US Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Nuland] handed out cookies to demonstrators and expressed support for their cause."

GOOD LORD! She handed out cookies!?!?!? Putin should have launched the nukes immediately.

The author goes on to state:

"It was startling to have diplomatic representatives of a foreign country—and a country that routinely touts the need to respect democratic processes and the sovereignty of other nations—to be scheming about removing an elected government and replacing it with officials meriting U.S. approval."

The author then cites 'proof' that United States' representatives were 'scheming' since they spoke to one another on a *private phone call* about whom they opined would serve as a better President of Ukraine.

Finally, the author concludes:

"The Nuland‐Pyatt telephone conversation and other actions confirm that the United States was considerably more than a passive observer to the turbulence. Instead, U.S. officials were blatantly meddling in Ukraine."

Private phone conversations between United States Government officials = "BLATENT MEDDLING". Got it.

and

"It is no wonder that Russia reacted badly to the unconstitutional ouster of an elected, pro‐Russian government—an ouster that occurred not only with Washington’s blessing, but apparently with its assistance."

"Apparently?!?!" So the author doesn't actually believe or provide proof of ACTUAL assistance. Oops!

So help us all understand... when you stated in your prior posts that:

"We helped push out the old regime in 2014 and installed who we wanted."

Was it (1) the cookies; or (2) was it the the two Americans talking to one another about who they thought would be a better President that actually overthrew Yanukovych and installed Yatsenyuk?
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OK. Don't question the war. Got it.
 
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Burhead said:
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I don't know why you should be concerned about this. Russia is getting their azzes handed to them in Ukraine. The conflict is stalled. Russia is being exhausted of their military capabilities. NATO, collectively, is able to outlast the Russian military industrial complex... just a gas station masquerading as a country.

Isn't that the narrative?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I don't know why you should be concerned about this. Russia is getting their azzes handed to them in Ukraine. The conflict is stalled. Russia is being exhausted of their military capabilities. NATO, collectively, is able to outlast the Russian military industrial complex... just a gas station masquerading as a country.

Isn't that the narrative?
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I'm not worried. I'm simply pointing out if we don't support Ukraine and defeat the Russians here and we simply had let them roll over Ukraine they will continue expansion. Just as in 2014 we let the conflict freeze the next war will be bigger and deadlier for better or worse the war has to end in Ukraine.
 
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