War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Putin the bad actor? Really?

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Former Ukraine president Poroshenko: “Minsk agreements gave us 8 years to train the army.” “Do you know what the success of the Minsk agreements is? This document gave Ukraine eight years to build an army, an economy and a global pro-Ukrainian anti-P

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François Hollande confirms Minsk Agreements were a Western ploy

In an exclusive interview with the Kyiv Independent , former French President François Hollande backed up the comments made by former Chancellor Angela Merkel in Die Zeit . To the question
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Merkel admits Minsk meant to buy Ukraine time | Lito U. Gagni

The cat is now out of the bag. Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s admission that the Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 peace protocols that sought to solve the problem of the Donbas region in Ukraine was not really meant for what it was supposedly intended to do: to have peace…
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the Minsk ceasefires, why was there a ceasefire if not for Putin being a bad actor?

And that's exactly what a ceasefire is, its a time for build up. No one, in the history of ever, has just come to a complete stop during a ceasefire. its not unheard of for their still to be casualty events during ceasefires historically.

Clearly Putin used it as a pretext to build up for the full blown invasion of Ukraine.
 
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evillawyer said:
Running out of ladas I guess. I guess the potato runs about as well as a lada, so not much difference.

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Zelensky threatening unrest in countries supporting Ukraine if weapons flow slows down/stops.

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Donald Trump will “never” support Putin, says Volodymyr Zelensky

But Ukraine’s president fears that some of his country’s Western backers are losing faith
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Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues. And it would create risks for the West in its own backyard. There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned.

Ukrainians have generally "behaved well" and are "very grateful" to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a "good story" for Europe if it were to "drive these people into a corner".
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
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You do know Ras that this is not consistent with your narrative that regular Ukrainians don't want this war and are fine with just being Russian, but it's the Americans that are calling the shots and forcing Ukrainians to die in America's proxy war with Russia.

Your new story is that Ukrainians have agency and are making demands of the west, while the prior story was that they lacked agency and were being used as pawns.

To quote raising Arizona:

 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Zelensky threatening unrest in countries supporting Ukraine if weapons flow slows down/stops.

www.economist.com

Donald Trump will “never” support Putin, says Volodymyr Zelensky

But Ukraine’s president fears that some of his country’s Western backers are losing faith
www.economist.com www.economist.com

Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues. And it would create risks for the West in its own backyard. There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned.

Ukrainians have generally "behaved well" and are "very grateful" to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a "good story" for Europe if it were to "drive these people into a corner".
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lol, you will stretch to anything. its amazing that you are desperate as a man leading his country against an invasion.

they are refugees, I doubt they are willing to fight for their country after they left it.
 
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evillawyer said:
You do know Ras that this is not consistent with your narrative that regular Ukrainians don't want this war and are fine with just being Russian, but it's the Americans that are calling the shots and forcing Ukrainians to die in America's proxy war with Russia.

Your new story is that Ukrainians have agency and are making demands of the west, while the prior story was that they lacked agency and were being used as pawns.

To quote raising Arizona:

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Switchin gears like a truck driver in a traffic jam on a mountain side.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Maybe it can get airplane parts from North Korea?

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I watched the last 15-20 min of a Russian special flight from Moscow to Vladivostok on flight radar last night. It landed safely in Vladivostok ... unfortunately. May have been Pootin's plane.
 
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LouderVol said:
I have to say, I was doubtful about the tires when they first showed up, but now its pretty clear its real.
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Looks like a perfect match for a firebombing drone. Imagine something resembling napalm or white phosphorus or both dropping down and igniting tires covering a plane. Tire covered planes looks like one of the dumbest plans yet.
 
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