War in Ukraine

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Taking a step back here is the Army's War College paper on lessons learned from the war so far.

Casualties, Replacements, and Reconstitutions

The Russia-Ukraine War is exposing significant vulnerabilities
in the Army’s strategic personnel depth and ability to withstand and replace
casualties.11 Army theater medical planners may anticipate a sustained
rate of roughly 3,600 casualties per day, ranging from those killed in action
to those wounded in action or suffering disease or other non-battle injuries.12
With a 25 percent predicted replacement rate, the personnel system will
require 800 new personnel each day. For context, the United States sustained
about 50,000 casualties in two decades of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In large-scale combat operations, the United States could experience that same
number of casualties in two weeks.

In addition to the disciplined disobedience required to execute effective
mission command, the US Army is facing a dire combination of a recruiting
shortfall and a shrinking Individual Ready Reserve. This recruiting shortfall,
nearly 50 percent in the combat arms career management fields, is a longitudinal
problem. Every infantry and armor soldier we do not recruit today is a strategic
mobilization asset we will not have in 2031.14 The Individual Ready Reserve,
which stood at 700,000 in 1973 and 450,000 in 1994, now stands at 76,000.15
These numbers cannot fill the existing gaps in the active force, let alone
any casualty replacement or expansion during a large-scale combat operation.
The implication is that the 1970s concept of an all-volunteer force has outlived
its shelf life and does not align with the current operating environment.
The technological revolution described below suggests this force has reached
obsolescence. Large-scale combat operations troop requirements may well
require a reconceptualization of the 1970s and 1980s volunteer force and
a move toward partial conscription.
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As we have seen several countries in Europe that ended conscription have reinstated it either in 2014 after Crimea or now after Feb 2022. Do I think it is likely here, absolutely not, but it is interesting that they are pushing that notion. I do wonder how a Finnish model would play: either a 6-8 term followed by yearly refresher training to create a larger pool of reservists in the event of a war involving another great power?
 
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evillawyer said:
Hey @Rasputin_Vol, how do all of you Putin nuthuggers rationalize this with the purported rampant Nazism in Ukraine?

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You have to remember that to @Rasputin_Vol and his fellow Russians, 'Nazism' doesn't equate the to fascism, racism, or anti-Semitism, but rather "anything or anyone that the Russian state doesn't like".

Russia is in fact fine with fascism, racism, and anti-Semitism.
 
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BeardedVol said:
You have to remember that to @Rasputin_Vol and his fellow Russians, 'Nazism' doesn't equate the to fascism, racism, or anti-Semitism, but rather "anything or anyone that the Russian state doesn't like".

Russia is in fact fine with fascism, racism, and anti-Semitism.
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Ah, good point. Sorta like how MTG tosses around "communism" and "communist" as general terms of derision completely divorced from their actual meaning.
 
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Let she who has not coped with a divorce by giving public handjobs cast the first stone. Come on folks, that's just what good Christian family-value loving girls (with tramp stamps) do when they're stressed.

 
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BeardedVol said:
You have to remember that to @Rasputin_Vol and his fellow Russians, 'Nazism' doesn't equate the to fascism, racism, or anti-Semitism, but rather "anything or anyone that the Russian state doesn't like".

Russia is in fact fine with fascism, racism, and anti-Semitism.
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This is so damn true with the bald dwarf’s junta. He invokes the largest threat to the Russian state in the 20th century just yo sell his BS against the current target of Russian bullying.
 
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Hard to believe some of you are still cheerleading this war. Hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians later and they are no closer to expelling Russia than they were when it started.

Death cult.
 
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volgr said:
Hard to believe some of you are still cheerleading this war. Hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians later and they are no closer to expelling Russia than they were when it started.

Death cult.
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LMAO well they’ve taken back 50% of the initially occupied territory but sure they’re making no progress Larry🤡

When you get your mobilization papers you should probably try to avoid naval service since the Russian navy is clearly outmatched by a country that doesn’t even have a navy 😂
 
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volgr said:
Hard to believe some of you are still cheerleading this war. Hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians later and they are no closer to expelling Russia than they were when it started.

Death cult.
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Why shouldn't everyone be cheering on Ukraine taking back their sovereign territory from a genocidal invader?
 
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BeardedVol said:
Why shouldn't everyone be cheering on Ukraine taking back their sovereign territory from a genocidal invader?
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a) Because they wont.

b) Because they will lose a tremendous amount of men trying (already have).

c) The genocidal invader is the one who was brought death and destruction across the globe for decades now and who was the main instigator of this conflict. The death cultists, to which you are one.
 
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Vol737 said:
Well, you can split hairs on the term Russian, that’s fine. Stalin was Georgian then. The concept of quantity continued as standard practice for the Soviet/Russian military long after Stalin was dead and gone. My point is if the US lined up it’s troops, warplanes, ships, subs…it’s own people and equipment that it’s not giving to UK, we would overwhelm Russian forces decidedly. What we are currently doing is not the same by any stretch. Ukrainian forces are fighting a ground war. US forces are not.
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Putting nukes aside... If there was to be a conventional war between the US and Russia right now, the US would not win. First off, while you diminish and disparage the idea of quantity over quality, that is a direct indication of military industrial output and capabilities. But that is just one aspect of the battle, because not only do you need weapons, but you also need "men".
 
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volgr said:
a) Because they wont.

b) Because they will lose a tremendous amount of men trying (already have).

c) The genocidal invader is the one who was brought death and destruction across the globe for decades now and who was the main instigator of this conflict. The death cultists, to which you are one.
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A) you've not been paying very much attention over the last year apparently.
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B) Ukrainians seem to be wholly committed to retaking their lands.
www.wsj.com

In New Poll, 89% of Ukrainians Reject Ceding Land to Reach Peace With Russia

Ukrainians back President Zelensky’s position that peace talks can’t grant Russia land it has seized, WSJ-NORC poll finds.
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com

C) Russia invaded Ukraine, and nothing that any other country on the planet, has or hasn't done will change that reality.

All of the blood spilt there is on the collective hands of Russia.

theweek.com

Russia's 'catastrophic' missing men problem

Where have all the young men gone?
theweek.com theweek.com
 
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BeardedVol said:
A) you've not been paying very much attention over the last year apparently.
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B) Ukrainians seem to be wholly committed to retaking their lands.
www.wsj.com

In New Poll, 89% of Ukrainians Reject Ceding Land to Reach Peace With Russia

Ukrainians back President Zelensky’s position that peace talks can’t grant Russia land it has seized, WSJ-NORC poll finds.
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com

C) Russia invaded Ukraine, and nothing that any other country on the planet, has or hasn't done will change that reality.

All of the blood spilt there is on the collective hands of Russia.

theweek.com

Russia's 'catastrophic' missing men problem

Where have all the young men gone?
theweek.com theweek.com
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Yeah, I have debated all that with you and others on this board. I am not rehashing and once again showing you where you are wrong.

You're in a death cult, there is no changing your mind.
 
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volgr said:
Yeah, I have debated all that with you and others on this board. I am not rehashing and once again showing you where you are wrong.

You're in a death cult, there is no changing your mind.
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The only "death cult" that exists, is the Russian government, that is now going to send deaf and schizophrenic people to die in Ukaine.
 
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