War in Ukraine

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Gandalf said:
I guarantee you I know what Armenia is thinking right now. - "If only we had paid uh.."Hunter" Biden a million a year" Funny how similar this is in only a smaller scale.

Checkmate in Nagorno-Karabakh? How Azerbaijan got Armenia to back down
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The sad part about this Armenia situation is that their prime minister is very suspect. First off, there is some speculation that Nikol Pashinyan is a Western insert/Puppet that was put in place to be a thorn in the Caucasuses for Russia. But even more damning than that, from what I understand (I haven't been able to find the actual quote), Pashinyan said that Nagorno-Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan. So Putin's hands are tied. He can't really do anything if the Armenian prime minister says something like that.
 
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Rand Paul Comes Out Swinging Against Lindsey Graham Over Ukraine Aid​


Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul called out his fellow Republican South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham over Ukraine aid Thursday while on Fox Business.

Graham told reporters Wednesday those opposed to giving Ukraine more aid should stay out of it until they’ve visited Ukraine and seen the war firsthand.

“Somebody needs to remind the Senator that we don’t have any money. We are about $1.5 trillion dollars in debt for this year. Over the last three months we’ve accumulated almost a trillion dollars in three months. The total is $33 trillion, so we don’t have like an extra rainy day fund or a surplus we can send them,” Paul said in response.

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Rand Paul Comes Out Swinging Against Lindsey Graham Over Ukraine Aid

Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul called out his fellow Republican South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham over Ukraine aid Thursday while on Fox Business.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The sad part about this Armenia situation is that their prime minister is very suspect. First off, there is some speculation that Nikol Pashinyan is a Western insert/Puppet that was put in place to be a thorn in the Caucasuses for Russia. But even more damning than that, from what I understand (I haven't been able to find the actual quote), Pashinyan said that Nagorno-Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan. So Putin's hands are tied. He can't really do anything if the Armenian prime minister says something like that.
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Lol, so now Nikol Pashinyan is a "western puppet" because Russia didn't honor their obligations under the CSTO and hep Armenia?

You=🤡

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Armenian PM Attacks Russian-Led Alliance At Summit In Yerevan

Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinian has criticized the Russian-led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) for its refusal to support Armenia when it faced "Azerbaijan's aggression."
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I love how the GOP can't appeal to their base by making a principled argument about right vs. wrong, democracy vs. totalitarianism, so they have to resort to the only thing the knuckledraggers in the party respond to -- their own self-interest.

 
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Hey Russia, you may want to confirm with Palestinian terrorists (if they weren't dead), but you generally don't wanna get on the wrong side of Mossad.

 
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davethevol said:
We just keep etching closer to full on WW3. South Korea says it ‘will not stand idly by’ if North Korea receives Russian help on nuclear weapons
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I keep saying to contain NK just threaten to assist Japan and SK with weapons, not that they necessarily need it. China would put the heat on NK. I get the sensitivities of the bomb drops, but even as a bluff, a communique signed by US and Japan straight to Beijing. Probably a last ditch effort to denuclearize the peninsula.
 
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When did liberals become the pro-war party???

On The Idiotic Notion That It's Brave To Support Nuclear Brinkmanship In Ukraine | ZeroHedge

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Sean Penn has been one of Hollywood’s most egregious empire apologists for some time now (in 2020 he told CNN that “there is no greater humanitarian force on the planet than the United States military”), but even by his standards these comments about nuclear brinkmanship are remarkably odious.

There’s this obnoxious idea that comes up in mainstream political discourse about Ukraine that an aversion to nuclear brinkmanship is somehow cowardly, and that being willing to risk the life of every terrestrial organism advancing US strategic objectives is somehow an act of courage.
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“I think the biggest thing is fear, I think we’re fearful,” Massaro said. “It’s very funny to me, because you meet Ukrainians, not a single Ukrainian is fearful. You talk to Ukrainians it’s like ‘What if the Russians use nuclear weapons?’, they’re like ‘We’ll keep fighting, we’ll win.’ You know it’s only the westerners that are like ‘Oh my god, I’m over here in California and what if the Russians use nuclear weapons?’ You know, it’s almost pathetic.”
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Paul Massaro is an interesting character... (of course, he has erased the tweet)

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US official backtracks after Nazi Collaborator tweet storm

The adviser to the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe has paraded a patch with Stepan Bandera and his signed Azov flag
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“Hey, look what I've got,” the grinning Massaro tweeted around 9:30 in the morning, showing off his green pseudo-military jacket with a patch that read “Bandera is our father, Ukraine is our mother.” It bore the embroidered visage of Bandera and the logo of his OUN-B organization.

Less than two hours and 270,000 views later, however, the tweet was gone. “Deleted at the request of a good Polish friend. God bless Polish-Ukrainian friendship and may it remain strong forever,” Massaro explained.
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LouderVol said:
sure. but that doesn't mean a robot designed to handle steel/aluminum in a thickness of less than 1mm for a car body is suddenly going to be able to handle a higher grade of steel several hundred mm thick. as AM64 was explaining its a much higher standard, dealing with many different factors.

the software isn't the inherent issue, I would think, its the hardware.

also just having the pieces/raw material. that high grade steel isn't commercially available.
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In 1940 you could probably put all the parts in a box and a smart guy off the farm with a healthy box of tools could assemble a working car. Today there's almost no chance of that happening even if the submodules were already built. Just as cars have become more complex, so has military equipment, and the assembly lines are nothing alike. Makes you wonder sometimes if progress is progress. How do you fight a war mired in the mud when you need a state of the art facility to keep stuff working?

My neighbor and I were talking today about some of the features new cars and gadgets around the house. Some I saw as doubtful. He said that he was surprised that being an engineer that I was somewhat anti-technology. I pointed out it's not anti-technology so much as anti-complexity. Or just because you can doesn't mean you should ... often the complexity doesn't add as much value as it reduces reliability and may even distract from function.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Paul Massaro is an interesting character... (of course, he has erased the tweet)

www.rt.com

US official backtracks after Nazi Collaborator tweet storm

The adviser to the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe has paraded a patch with Stepan Bandera and his signed Azov flag
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Hey @Rasputin_Vol, remind me the death toll of Bandera vis-a-vis Stalin. I'm sure they're comparable and you have equal concerns about Russians that celebrate Stalin, right? I know your outrage is completely consistent.
 
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BeardedVol said:
@Rasputin_Vol something...something...imperialist...something...something....

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It sure looks like this is what has been happening; the big problem for Russia is a lot of those places didn't like it the first time around, so they don't plan to comply - see Ukraine. Makes you wonder as the word gets around, what life is going to be like for transplanted Russians occupying space in the old Soviet states. If people start seeing them as a threat to the sanctity of their own countries, maybe we'll start seeing some Russian genocide ... or Russian expats deciding they need to go home.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
When did liberals become the pro-war party???

On The Idiotic Notion That It's Brave To Support Nuclear Brinkmanship In Ukraine | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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For somebody who was actually around when dems claimed to be afraid of Barry Goldwater, this hawk/dove relationship flip is definitely strange. The "make love, not war" crowd was definitely not GOP material in the old days.
 
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AM64 said:
It sure looks like this is what has been happening; the big problem for Russia is a lot of those places didn't like it the first time around, so they don't plan to comply - see Ukraine. Makes you wonder as the word gets around, what life is going to be like for transplanted Russians occupying space in the old Soviet states. If people start seeing them as a threat to the sanctity of their own countries, maybe we'll start seeing some Russian genocide ... or Russian expats deciding they need to go home.
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You say that as if you would be gleeful to see Russians dying...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You say that as if you would be gleeful to see Russians dying...
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No, hopefully they would see the light and go home. I absolutely believe the Russian part of the Soviets planted these people in Soviet states for a reason. I don't believe they foresaw the fall of the Soviet Union by any means, but I think the concept of Russians spread all over was an attempt to "Russianize" all the other parts of the USSR. When the USSR collapsed, the Russian expats were probably seen as valuable plants. I know you use Stalin, etc as "proof" that the USSR was much more than Russia, but a lot of us here still believe the USSR WAS just another Russian Empire with enough toadies to make it seem legit.
 
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