War in Ukraine

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AM64 said:
No, hopefully they would see the light and go home. I absolutely believe the Russian part of the Soviets planted these people in Soviet states for a reason. I don't believe they foresaw the fall of the Soviet Union by any means, but I think the concept of Russians spread all over was an attempt to "Russianize" all the other parts of the USSR. When the USSR collapsed, the Russian expats were probably seen as valuable plants. I know you use Stalin, etc as "proof" that the USSR was much more than Russia, but a lot of us here still believe the USSR WAS just another Russian Empire with enough toadies to make it seem legit.
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So go home or die?
 
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AM64 said:
No, hopefully they would see the light and go home. I absolutely believe the Russian part of the Soviets planted these people in Soviet states for a reason. I don't believe they foresaw the fall of the Soviet Union by any means, but I think the concept of Russians spread all over was an attempt to "Russianize" all the other parts of the USSR. When the USSR collapsed, the Russian expats were probably seen as valuable plants. I know you use Stalin, etc as "proof" that the USSR was much more than Russia, but a lot of us here still believe the USSR WAS just another Russian Empire with enough toadies to make it seem legit.
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It's called "Russification", and they did it for nearly 200 years, much to the detriment of their neighbors.

This is why eastern Europe hates Russia.

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BeardedVol said:
It's called "Russification", and they did it for nearly 200 years, much to the detriment of their neighbors.

This is why eastern Europe hates Russia.

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Russification - Wikipedia

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I particularly like this sentence. It is so symbolic of all that Russia touches - that people would rather die than be Russian.

"A number of Ukrainian activists died by suicide in protest against Russification, including Vasyl Makukh in 1968 and Oleksa Hirnyk in 1978."
 
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Lee, one of the signatories, posted that when senators asked during the briefing how much the conflict in Ukraine would cost the U.S. in the next 14 months, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin “came up with a staggering estimate of $100 Billion,” in addition to the $113 billion already spent.

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Over Two Dozen GOP Senators, Lawmakers Say No More Funding for Ukraine

Nearly two dozen Republican senators and lawmakers said no to more funding for Ukraine, just as the country's president arrived in D.C.
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“Until we have a plan to secure the southern border, you can count me out for any more funding for Ukraine,” said Senator Marshall, one of six GOP senators and 23 House Republicans to sign a letter to the Biden administration today opposing its request for an additional $24 billion.

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CobbVol said:
“Until we have a plan to secure the southern border, you can count me out for any more funding for Ukraine,” said Senator Marshall, one of six GOP senators and 23 House Republicans to sign a letter to the Biden administration today opposing its request for an additional $24 billion.

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“Until we have a plan to secure the southern border, you can count me out for any more funding for Ukraine,” said Senator Marshall, one of six GOP senators and 23 House Republicans to sign a letter to the Biden administration today opposing its request for an additional $24 billion.

Then signs onto a letter that says nothing about securing the southern border.

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AM64 said:
In 1940 you could probably put all the parts in a box and a smart guy off the farm with a healthy box of tools could assemble a working car. Today there's almost no chance of that happening even if the submodules were already built. Just as cars have become more complex, so has military equipment, and the assembly lines are nothing alike. Makes you wonder sometimes if progress is progress. How do you fight a war mired in the mud when you need a state of the art facility to keep stuff working?

My neighbor and I were talking today about some of the features new cars and gadgets around the house. Some I saw as doubtful. He said that he was surprised that being an engineer that I was somewhat anti-technology. I pointed out it's not anti-technology so much as anti-complexity. Or just because you can doesn't mean you should ... often the complexity doesn't add as much value as it reduces reliability and may even distract from function.
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When my phone goes into "do not disturb" it rings to tell me I want quiet time. We have a car that beeps frantically when we put it in reverse if there is something in front of us, because I might crash into the thing in front of me while going backwards. Auto-correct sometimes tells me to do things that are incorrect or change the meaning. The financial crisis of 2008 included computer programs determining risk based on assumptions that were not always right. Technology without common sense just makes mistakes faster than a human could.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The sad part about this Armenia situation is that their prime minister is very suspect. First off, there is some speculation that Nikol Pashinyan is a Western insert/Puppet that was put in place to be a thorn in the Caucasuses for Russia. But even more damning than that, from what I understand (I haven't been able to find the actual quote), Pashinyan said that Nagorno-Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan. So Putin's hands are tied. He can't really do anything if the Armenian prime minister says something like that.
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The entire world recognizes it as apart of Azerbaijan even Armenia doesn’t claim it…
 
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AM64 said:
No, hopefully they would see the light and go home. I absolutely believe the Russian part of the Soviets planted these people in Soviet states for a reason. I don't believe they foresaw the fall of the Soviet Union by any means, but I think the concept of Russians spread all over was an attempt to "Russianize" all the other parts of the USSR. When the USSR collapsed, the Russian expats were probably seen as valuable plants. I know you use Stalin, etc as "proof" that the USSR was much more than Russia, but a lot of us here still believe the USSR WAS just another Russian Empire with enough toadies to make it seem legit.
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BeardedVol said:
It's called "Russification", and they did it for nearly 200 years, much to the detriment of their neighbors.

This is why eastern Europe hates Russia.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Russification - Wikipedia

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I don’t know if Russian leadership intended for it to play out like it did or were simply colonizing the new Soviet republics but they in the process created ticking demographic time bombs for the Kremlin to politically use when the time is right.
 
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Burhead said:
I don’t know if Russian leadership intended for it to play out like it did or were simply colonizing the new Soviet republics but they in the process created ticking demographic time bombs for the Kremlin to politically use when the time is right.
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tale as old as time. Alexander the Great did it with Veterans. There are legit Greek/Macedonian ruins in Afghanistan because of it.

its a pretty good idea all around.

Usually the areas are lightly populated, with the Russians taking that depopulation into their own hands, so brining in your own people gets that land working sooner than they would otherwise.
because they are your people you don't have to train them with whatever techniques or make them change from one type of production to one that aligns with you.
Typically you pull from your own overpopulated areas, so you are helping that issue.
It provides the ethnic core to a region that will speed assimilation. Having people with the same language, beliefs, culture as the ruling government gives them an anchor and helps push the Russification from a population standpoint (making ethnic Russian babies) instead of just a top down approach to convert.
Those people moved in are typically more dependent on your government, and thus loyal, instead of being loyal to a local government.
and if you move in veterans you have a ready made source of reservists in the area in case the locals do rise up.
further it gives you a solid base in case you have to come back to the area to fight. with local intel, a safe place for troops and equipment, and any increased Russification is a bonus.

The Chinese are doing this too with the Han.
 
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Burhead said:
The entire world recognizes it as apart of Azerbaijan even Armenia doesn’t claim it…
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Then why was there this hand wringing before recently from Pashinyan about Russia not assisting them enough in the conflict?

Something has happened recently to cause Pashinyan to pivot so suddenly. Turning away from the CSTO and turning to America for military... possible promise of EU membership?
 
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Having this radical represent US interests is certainly turning many people off. Death threats against Westerners and now this.
 
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Burhead said:
I don’t know if Russian leadership intended for it to play out like it did or were simply colonizing the new Soviet republics but they in the process created ticking demographic time bombs for the Kremlin to politically use when the time is right.
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They deported people to Siberia, and outlawed the local languages, and moved ethnic Russians in to replace the deported.

It was wholly intentional.
 
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TNVOLNAVY said:
JD Vance says in 5 years we’ll find out who became rich(er) funding the Ukraine war. Duh? I can already tell him who’s getting the windfall.

Add the Clinton’s to the list.


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It sounds like you are advocating that the US government should fund the rebuild from tax dollars alone to keep any finance or banking sector entities from profiting from loaning money for the rebuild.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Then why was there this hand wringing before recently from Pashinyan about Russia not assisting them enough in the conflict?

Something has happened recently to cause Pashinyan to pivot so suddenly. Turning away from the CSTO and turning to America for military... possible promise of EU membership?
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yeah Russia defaulting on that CSTO alliance. Russia not looking very strong on the international stage with a war they can't win against Ukraine. Russia being unable to maintain their protection of Nagorno for Armenia. and not just this time. Russia also failed in the area back in 2020.
 
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Velo Vol said:
A lot of recent offensive energy directed toward the Russian Navy, for a mostly non-naval conflict.

Is Ukraine simply trying to open up Black Sea shipping? Or is something else in the works?
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if they do enough damage to the Black Sea fleet the relative value of Crimea decreases drastically.

also if they plan to retake Crimea, the Black Sea Fleet would be able to strike from every direction.
 
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