War in Ukraine

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JFreak said:
Horrendous take. So if you're not taking up arms in the Israel/Palestine conflict you're not allowed to have an opinion on it?

No one wants US boots on the ground in Ukraine, but we are required to support them as stated in the Budapest Memorandum.
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Of course you can have an opinion on it. Where'd that come from? You all are hysterical. Doesn't mean you have a decent opinion though. Put your money where your mouth is, or body where your fingers are.

Bold - I don't want boots on the ground in Ukraine. I don't believe your ilk that you don't. We have done way, way, way more that we ever should have. Ukraine is sending their men off to get slaughtered. Why? They're not winning. A peace plan is necessary, Ukraine - one of if not the most corrupt nation on earth - needs to cut their losses.
 
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just bob said:
Of course you can have an opinion on it. Where'd that come from? You all are hysterical. Doesn't mean you have a decent opinion though. Put your money where your mouth is, or body where your fingers are.

Bold - I don't want boots on the ground in Ukraine. I don't believe your ilk that you don't. We have done way, way, way more that we ever should have. Ukraine is sending their men off to get slaughtered. Why? They're not winning. A peace plan is necessary, Ukraine - one of if not the most corrupt nation on earth - needs to cut their losses.
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Outline your suggested plan of action for them to cut their losses.
 
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MontyPython said:
Archaic treaties. Wow.

You know the Louisiana purchase treaty of 1803 is pretty old. We should really just ignore that as well and allow France to take all their land back.
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We should have an annual award ceremony where we give out the superlative posts in many different categories. I would nominate yours for worst analogy.

By the way, if you google America's broken treaties, you will see we have a rich history of ignoring them. Lastly, I do not think the BM is a treaty.
 
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https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRus...pov_uk_pm_keir_starmer_says_the_uk_france_to/

What is the use of a ceasefire? The midget said they won't stop until da pootin pays them back for all the damage i.e. endless war. The midget said the Ukraine would never sign another agreement with the Russians i.e. endless war. He can't have the war stop or he will be removed. I thought starmer was pushing it on Thursday, Trump handled it great brought up Russia Gate and told starmer you got a great military, you take on the Russians.

Vance needs to throw starmer in the fireplace he brings this crap over there. They should be talking to the Russians, duh.

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McDad said:
We should have an annual award ceremony where we give out the superlative posts in many different categories. I would nominate yours for worst analogy.

By the way, if you google America's broken treaties, you will see we have a rich history of ignoring them. Lastly, I do not think the BM is a treaty.
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Thank you. Always looking to bask in the glory of superlatives.

"BM" is about right. And you're probably right that it's not a treaty, per se.
 
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ATP id offer to sell Russia weapons with the deal to get half the mineral rights and some kinda oil deal as well...and let them end this war. Zelensky has to intent to lose power by signing a peace deal
 
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rekinhavoc said:
www.breitbart.com

Barstool's Dave Portnoy on Trump-Zelensky Clash: 'Felt Like I Was Watching Bravo TV'

Dave Portnoy says the clash between President Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky on Friday made him think he was "watching Bravo TV."
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“If you’re anti-Trump, you’re basically saying, ‘This is the worst day in the history of America,’” Portnoy said. “We’re basically the same as Russia and a dictator and Putin and evil. And if you’re pro-Trump, you’re like, ‘Finally, somebody sticking up for American citizens, American taxpayers."

“This previous administration, Biden has [called] Putin a killer, a dictator, all the things Zelenskyy says,” Portnoy explained. “And what has that gotten us? Hundreds of billions of dollars given to Ukraine, and they’re really no closer to ending this war.”

In another moment, Portnoy spent considerable time criticizing Zelensky for not being appropriately dressed to meet President Trump in the Oval Office.

“You can say whatever you want about Trump,” Portnoy explained. “He takes signs of disrespect personally. He’s very much about, you know, respecting other things. So, Zelenskyy shows up, and he’s wearing his sweatshirt and his customary outfit, which is his way of essentially saying, ‘I’m at war. I don’t have time to play politics or any other stuff.

“For me, this is just stupid. We get you’re at war, but you’re coming to meet a new administration,” he added. ” And it’s just a sign of disrespect not to show the same level of respect (in) the Oval Office that Trump clearly thinks it deserves.”

In addition, Portnoy stressed the need for Ukraine to show “deference” to the country that has done so much to help them.

“They should show some deference to or thank you to the American taxpayers. We don’t have to continually foot this bill. But I respect or understand Trump not wanting to vilify Putin. The last administration did it every single chance they could get. It got us nowhere. Trump made it very clear he wants diplomacy. He wants to end the debt. He wants to end this war.”

Portnoy said, “I don’t necessarily have the answers, but I think Trump and Vance handled this as well as they could. Like, we’re not going to just get steamrolled by Zelenskyy at the expense of getting a deal done. And if that means we have to throw a couple flowers at Putin, so be it.”
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Churchill visiting Washington during WWII.

Guess Trump would have rightfully told him to GTFO.

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Vol737 said:
The guys living in caves fight a different war than Russia, different tactics. Yes, we would roll Russia because they haven’t learned new tactics to fighting a war since WWII. I’m not saying I’m advocating for that, I don’t. We’ve helped Ukraine about as much as we could. Will be interesting to see who squares off against whom in Europe, assuming you’re correct.
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What new tactics? This is really the first large scale war since the WWII/Korean War, meaning at this scale and with equipment. It looks like real warfare really hasn't changed much, the fake wars.... sure. Whatever men you put into the Ukraine, the Russians will come up with more. Whatever you can produce, the Russians can produce more.... at least at this point.

Nobody is putting millions of troops into the Ukraine to die... you could be looking at 10s of millions. Why would anyone put troops into the Ukraine? And if they do, they better be prepared to send millions.

Will be interesting to see who squares off against whom in Europe, assuming you’re correct.
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I think this is where the story gets to complex to accurately predict. My wild guess is the Baltic countries are the target for Europe. We're entering the phase where the wheels start to fall off the bus in Europe, just my take and what I said in 2022. Panic mode, and they should be.

War in Ukraine
Oct 2022
This all starts when Europe finally figures out the United States isn't there friend. Europe is going to suffer for decades to come either way.
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War in Ukraine
Oct 2022
-> The Ukrainians really don't have any friends. <-

The sooner they figure that out probably the better.
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War in Ukraine
Sept 2022
With friends like these, who needs enemies?

Anything out in the open is now fair game.
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The war machine is probably barely gotten started in Europe. Nothing has changed in 3 years other than more exposure to the obvious. The neocons setup a doozy here, very hard to unravel. The Europeans might have to go back to swords to fight though...

 
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MontyPython said:
Define the "peace deal" to which you refer. And what, specifically, will it do to bring a cessation of fighting?
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Your awful demanding of someone with nothing to say.

Keeping the status quo means every man in Ukraine is dead, Russia takes what they want anyway.

You're little bi*** really screwed the pooch at the White House. lmao
 
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just bob said:
You think Trump held off a planned ambush for 40 minutes and then waited for the little pissant tyrant Z to shoot himself in the foot? lmao you're entertaining.
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People are watching the 5-8 minute MSNBC video and not the full video (or the are watching the SNL skit).

Welcome to America. it would be nice if we have a logical set people that watch full videos and read up on topics before jumping to conclusion. That doesn't happen. We are a bunch of emotional high school kids posing as grown ups that respond more to 5 min trends than really research hard facts. This is where Trump fails, he gives them red meat constantly with outbursts like Ukraine started the war.

To be fair, MAGA is same way, just on the other side. I doubt lawgator has even watched the full video or read any context about what is going on.

SNL clearly didn't. Then again, they are a parody show anyways. Look how they depicted Rubio in the skit (no where near how Rubio was behaving on CNN).
 
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LSU-SIU said:
The US didn't roll guys living in caves for 20 years and 2.3T. It just doesn't work like that.The Ukraine lost even if europe was directly involved. I would listen to what Vance said the other day....weapons and ammo storages are gone. I agree its not our problem.

The Europeans will probably be at war at some point but not with russia...that is why the panic.
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With their immigration policies, economic policies, and degradation of civil rights, they are collapsing from within.
 
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