War in Ukraine

[TheDeeble]

SWIFT cut off is going to be announced tomorrow. I did not think the Europeans had it in them.

Did anyone expect a full scale Ukraine invasion? I was thinking at most it would be the outlying areas trying to go independent and some battles/skirmishes possibly supporting that. Not the Russian army trying to take Kyiv. After seeing that and Ukraine putting up a lot of resistance and not rolling over I could understand some European countries taking a much more hardline stance against Russia since there’s no real or even weak justification for a full invasion. This just looks like attempted land grab country take over thievery.

Putin’s speech a few days ago suggesting Ukraine had no right to be independent definitely got my interest but I didn’t think they would attempt to take over Ukraine completely.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

If that tweet is correct, it also reveals Russians are already having supply chain issues.

Their commodities have doubled. That comes from my friend in Russia.

 

[headhunter15]

This is escalating and I would expect Russian cyberattacks worldwide.

Game on then.

 

[Paper_Towel]

 

[headhunter15]

SWIFT cut off is going to be announced tomorrow. I did not think the Europeans had it in them.

I don’t think Europe thought Putin would really do it. Hopefully it’s a wake up call.

 

[Gandalf]

Will just put this here for VN progressives - Putin would not have invaded Ukraine if Trump were president: poll

The survey released Friday from the Harvard Center for American Political Studies (CAPS)-Harris Poll found that 62% of Americans believed Putin would not have pulled the trigger if Trump were still president

Elections (even fake ones) have consequences far and wide


And for those of you swallowing every bit of hero Ukraine - understand that we can still root for the underdog and desire Putin's downfall without being suckered into the propaganda that our own agencies are running on Ukraine's behalf. You guys dont really see what is happening but you have already bought the narrative.

One thing I notice - whatever happens to Ukraine (you know, that troubled corrupt place that was paying Hunter last week) and Putin (cold rat bastard that he is) and Russia - the only winners from this conflict are:
1. China
2. Those who want to pivot from the disaster that has been Covid totalitarianism (yeah, remember that Trudeau was basically Putin lite last week) and want us all to forget that before the midterms.
3. Eco warriors who wanted $5 gas to force us all into EVs and net zero.

When I see the above winners, it makes me suspicious of the rest of what I am seeing.

 

[ButchPlz]

That top one is really believable to me. I can't imagine that there's widespread support for this in Russia.

 

[Paper_Towel]

 

[headhunter15]

 

[85SugarVol]

We had 585,000 solders in South Vietnam with advanced equipment and 100% control of the sky and could not defeat a determined insurgency.

The key is going to be for the West to keep the arms flowing.

 

[AM64]

What kind of mushroom is that?

One of the probing kind.

 

[Paper_Towel]

 

[landscapingvol]

Chechens got smashed

You hate to see it

 

[Orangeburst]

Game on then.

Be careful. SWIFT is a financial nuke option. Going to impact you and me if he retaliates and make it our kinetic with just one more step

 

[volfanhill]

Be careful. SWIFT is a financial nuke option. Going to impact you and me if he retaliates and make it our kinetic with just one more step

Putin is getting sent the right message. Europe and US aren't putting up with his thuggery. It's the correct measure. And honestly, they aren't even fully kicking them out. Should be stronger

 

[headhunter15]

The love they have for their country is unreal!

 

[OHvol40]

Be careful. SWIFT is a financial nuke option. Going to impact you and me if he retaliates and make it our kinetic with just one more step

I may be in the minority, but I’m willing to take hits to weaken Putin. Had enough of him. He’s dangerous.

 

[VolStrom]

Be careful. SWIFT is a financial nuke option. Going to impact you and me if he retaliates and make it our kinetic with just one more step

Weren't we energy independent before potato head stole the election? Seems to me it would be easy to go back to that if the democrats would get the hell out of the way.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

I am a nuke option. I will be the first to be hit. Me, my wife, my child. am telling you to take him the **** out. He is on the run with nukes. He is a coward and s liar. Take him out. He is hiding.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

The love they have for their country is unreal!

Too bad that doesn't exist here.

Pray for Ukraine

 

[NorthDallas40]

Putin is getting sent the right message. Europe and US aren't putting up with his thuggery. It's the correct measure. And honestly, they aren't even fully kicking them out. Should be stronger

I’m guessing the banks that service German gas payments to Putin are excluded from the “partial” SWIFT access denial which I’d guess means a bunch of money keeps flowing.

The Western cucks need to cut it all off.

 

[AM64]

That's great, but what would really be far better is to cut off countries from the internet. Hackers (whether government intelligence or individuals) can't disrupt what they can't access. Maybe a simple minded approach if they can move geographically, but it's a start.

 

[Orangeburst]

Putin is getting sent the right message. Europe and US aren't putting up with his thuggery. It's the correct measure. And honestly, they aren't even fully kicking them out. Should be stronger

Dude..you dont pull such a card at this point. Especially since this is not NATO and require such a pull

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

It would be nothing more than burning equipment and dead bodies.

The smart thing would be to surround them by securing the coastal plains and the Mississippi drainage, and then say screw it, you can have the Apps.

Of course there would be raids without end issuing from them...well until the ammo ran out anyway.

 

[Paper_Towel]