War in Ukraine

The difference is, if rich people in the United States want a change of leadership, they donate to the campaigns of opposing candidates.

If the oligarchs want a change of leadership in Russia, Putin likely just disappears.

They do more than just donate to opposing candidates here but if that's the only difference then the two are essentially the same.
 
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Massive Russian convoy just miles from Kyiv stalls for third day
The convoy has not made 'appreciable progress geographically,' according to the Pentagon

This is unbelievable. Kyiv is literally 60 miles from the Estonian border.

Talking heads blaming it on logistical issues, equipment failure, and Ukrainian resistance. Really? Russian troops can't travel 60 MILES without running out of gas, food and their equipment breaking down?!? Come on, man.

What I think this situation really shows is:

(1) Putin's initial Plan A has been aborted; and
(2) He and his advisors are trying to figure out what Plan B is.

FWIW if we were actually involved in this war, the entire convey would have been obliterated in just under 5 minutes. Sad.
 
Massive Russian convoy just miles from Kyiv stalls for third day
The convoy has not made 'appreciable progress geographically,' according to the Pentagon

This is unbelievable. Kyiv is literally 60 miles from the Estonian border.

Talking heads blaming it on logistical issues, equipment failure, and Ukrainian resistance. Really? Russian troops can't travel 60 MILES without running out of gas, food and their equipment breaking down?!? Come on, man.

What I think this situation really shows is:

(1) Putin's initial Plan A has been aborted; and
(2) He and his advisors are trying to figure out what Plan B is.

FWIW if we were actually involved in this war, the entire convey would have been obliterated 2 days ago. Sad.
There's online speculation that a lot of these vehicles are using substandard Chinese tires that were not properly stored/maintained and that's contributed to the delay.

https://theweek.com/russo-ukrainian...es-might-explain-russias-stalled-40-mile-long
 
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People are completely ignoring the fact that there are actual fascist groups in the Ukraine. Ukraine isn't completely innocent in what has gone on in Eastern Ukraine and the Donbass region. There are also Ukrainians who consider Stepan Bandera to be a national hero. I suggest people look into this.
Not only that, but let's not pretend Ukraine was a paragon of democracy. Western interests were running drugs, weapons, vice and all sorts of corruption rackets throughout the country. Also, its comical that we have weeping about foreign influences in Ukraine now when they've had US political family members and carpetbaggers like Sashkavill running around there.
 
The difference is, if rich people in the United States want a change of leadership, they donate to the campaigns of opposing candidates.

If the oligarchs want a change of leadership in Russia, Putin likely just disappears.
Or they just rig the primaries to get rid of opposition. There is a little size difference in our oligarchy but it's the same
 
This is one of the best explanations I’ve seen so far of why things are unfolding the way they are . I also believe that once they have encircled Ukraine it’s over . No more support from the west unless we decide to be stupid and I’m hoping that isn’t going to happen .
If the Russian people sit by and watch this unfold then I have no problem letting them starve and suffer due to economic sanctions for decades. Let them live and die by their swords.
 
I’m going to have to just have to agree to disagree with those equating our government system with Russia. Not even worth quoting all the posts for it.
There's not a single definition to the word being used. They can both fit the definition without being the same
 
What is there to say? He chose to use his military to achieve a political objective. Not a decision I like necessarily. I would have hoped that cooler heads in the West could have been honest negotiators, but apparently that is just asking too much.
So, he is upset with the West so he went after Ukraine? If his problem is the west seems like he should take it up with the west.

And when you say honest negotiations you mean giving Russia what they want regardless of what Ukraine wants. That's not honest at all, what was Russia prepared to give up, war isnt the answer. If war is one of your negotiating stances you arent negotiating honestly. Russia was looking for justification to go to war, and made an unacceptable stance towards Ukraine.
 
Not only that, but let's not pretend Ukraine was a paragon of democracy. Western interests were running drugs, weapons, vice and all sorts of corruption rackets throughout the country. Also, its comical that we have weeping about foreign influences in Ukraine now when they've had US political family members and carpetbaggers like Sashkavill running around there.
What's also crazy is how very few people also know about the Holodomor and the Kazakh famine which were orchestrated by the Soviet Union in the 1930s which killed millions.
 
Not only that, but let's not pretend Ukraine was a paragon of democracy. Western interests were running drugs, weapons, vice and all sorts of corruption rackets throughout the country. Also, its comical that we have weeping about foreign influences in Ukraine now when they've had US political family members and carpetbaggers like Sashkavill running around there.
Most, probably all, governments are corrupt. Ours, Russia's, Ukraine's, U.K.'s... How does that justify invading a sovereign nation and slaughtering its citizenry? Should Putin or the U.S. get to decide who and how the Ukraine is governed, or should it be up to the citizens of the Ukraine? I'm tired of all your Putin apologies. The vast majority of us are well aware of how corrupt our government has become, and how rights are being stripped away. None of that changes how we feel about what Putin is doing. Your attempts to bring reason to his senseless actions are pathetic. The people of the Ukraine should not be facing Russian forces. And despite the meddling of the U.S. in the Ukraine, the only person at fault for this is Putin, because he's the one that decided to send in his army. He had other options. He chose this course. And all of your excuses will not change that.
 

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