War in Ukraine

[allvol123]

They are winning the information war. No doubt about that. They certainly have a damn good narrative they are spinning. Controlling the language and redefining terms is part of that.

Is it a war or not?

 

[KB5252]

Or the point of the tweet was that it is relatively quiet in the city and not the Fallujah/Aleppo scene that the media wants to show you. Nobody said anything about fake anything.

GTFOH youself...

No, they are worried we are going to see similar scenes to Kharkev(sp?) and other cities where it's very bad but much less populated.

Bet that fool wouldn't go to Irpin or the other northern suburbs and take a similar stroll.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Crowds line train stations in Germany and Poland to welcome Ukrainian refugees into their homes

Thousands of Europeans are registering to host Ukranian refugees at their homes and showing up to train stations to offer support. (Supplied: Unterkunft-Ukraine)

Lara received a call in the middle of the night on Saturday and headed straight to Berlin's main train station.

There she was met by a woman and her two teenage sons who had fled the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

"Right now they are staying at our place," Lara, who preferred to only use her first name, told the ABC.

The 32-year-old said she was uncertain how long the family would be staying in the spare room of the apartment she shares with her husband and two boys.

There are language barriers, but they are doing what they can to bring some comfort to their guests.

"They were super tired and hungry, and the first thing they wanted to do was take a shower and go to bed," Lara said.

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"They were so exhausted, because they were travelling for around 16 hours."​

Up to 5 million people are predicted to flee Ukraine as the humanitarian crisis worsens. (ABC News)

Volunteers give refugees food and clothes as they arrive at Berlin's main train station.(Reuters: Annegret Hilse)

Chain of support working 'within minutes'

More than 50,000 people who fled Ukraine have so far registered in Germany, according to the interior ministry.

Germany's main railway operator Deutsche Bahn (DB) is offering refugees free travel, and Berlin has become a hub for arrivals from neighbouring Poland.

Ukrainian refugees can use around 40 trains free of charge from Poland, Austria or the Czech Republic to get to several German cities, a spokesperson for Deutsche Bahn told the ABC.

Ms Sanchez and her boyfriend are among the many Berliners opening their doors to refugees.(Supplied)

The 'super weird' chain of strangers helping to house thousands of Ukranian refugees in Europe

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

US slams 'laughable' claim DoD is operating bio labs in Ukraine after China backs Kremlin allegation | Daily Mail Online

 

[Franklin Pierce]

It comes as an 11-year-old refugee boy left his parents in Ukraine and traveled 600 miles on his own.

The little boy had just a phone number written on his hand after fleeing his home in the southern Ukrainian city of Zaporizhzhia and crossed the border to Slovakia alone.

Slovakian authorities have praised the boy for his bravery and said that he only had a backpack, a plastic bag, a passport, and a phone number written on his hand.

They added that volunteers looked after the boy and gave him food and drinks.

"He gained all of them with his smile, fearlessness and determination, worthy of a true hero," the Slovak Ministry of Interior said in a statement.

The statement, posted on the ministry’s Facebook page said that thanks to the phone number on the boy's hand and a piece of paper in his passport, staff were able to contact his relatives in Slovakia who picked him up later.

Heartbreaking truth behind prams left at Polish stations on Ukraine border

 

[landscapingvol]

I have no idea how many they have. All I know is that Russia intervened in the Middle East to remove Syria's chemical weapons in 2013 while the United States supplied chemical weapons to a Middle Eastern country (Iraq).

Sure they did lol, you mean the Syrian regime that Putin supports who used it on its own people? I wonder how Syria got the capabilities to fire them? You don't put context with anything in terms of US foreign policy specifically the Iran/Iraq War but always give the Russians the benefit of the doubt. It's comical. Read the attached paragraph below:

"Syria "probably" first began stockpiling chemical weapons in 1972 or 1973, when Egypt gave the country a small number of chemicals and delivery systems before the Yom Kippur War against Israel, according to a recent report from the Congressional Research Service.
The Soviet Union later supplied chemical agents, delivery systems and training."

 

[landscapingvol]

They are winning the information war. No doubt about that. They certainly have a damn good narrative they are spinning. Controlling the language and redefining terms is part of that.

Keep it up Don Quixote

 

[Franklin Pierce]

'CHILDREN WERE SCREAMING'

“Children were screaming and women were crying. People waved goodbye to the men who stayed behind to fight.

“Many of those fleeing had brought their cats and dogs but there was no space on the train so they had to let them run off.”

Refugee kids receive toys, milk and food after exhausting journey to safety

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

US slams 'laughable' claim DoD is operating bio labs in Ukraine after China backs Kremlin allegation | Daily Mail Online

Victoria Nuland is the one saying it. Cancel and fact check her.

 

[MontyPython]

Erfff

'All bets are off': Russia has a massive arsenal of battlefield nukes, and there's heated debate about whether a desperate Putin might use it

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

He won't. He's a fear monger. It's his specialty. Even if it's true (probably not). A lot reasons for this, but, he will go "scorched earth", bio, poison, and blow nuke power plants first.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Sure they did lol, you mean the Syrian regime that Putin supports who used it on its own people? I wonder how Syria got the capabilities to fire them? You don't put context with anything in terms of US foreign policy specifically the Iran/Iraq War but always give the Russians the benefit of the doubt. It's comical. Read the attached paragraph below:

"Syria "probably" first began stockpiling chemical weapons in 1972 or 1973, when Egypt gave the country a small number of chemicals and delivery systems before the Yom Kippur War against Israel, according to a recent report from the Congressional Research Service.
The Soviet Union later supplied chemical agents, delivery systems and training."

That is fake news. At every point where Assad and Syria was getting the upper hand in Syria, all of a sudden, a false flag attack pops up. There was no political or military advantage gained by them gassing his own people at that moment when they were winning.

 

[Orangeburst]

2021 seemed like a great year in retrospect

 

[UT_VOLS13]

White House warns Russia could use chemical or biological weapons in Ukraine

 

[Gandalf]

*sigh* I am going to post this here -

a full-length film by none other than Oliver Stone called Ukraine on Fire from 2016, so well before recent events.

Its Imdb summary:
Ukraine. Across its eastern border is Russia and to its west-Europe. For centuries, it has been at the center of a tug-of-war between powers seeking to control its rich lands and access to the Black Sea. 2014's Maidan Massacre triggered a bloody uprising that ousted president Viktor Yanukovych and painted Russia as the perpetrator by Western media. But was it? "Ukraine on Fire" by Igor Lopatonok provides a historical perspective for the deep divisions in the region which lead to the 2004 Orange Revolution, 2014 uprisings, and the violent overthrow of democratically elected Yanukovych. Covered by Western media as a people's revolution, it was in fact a coup d'état scripted and staged by nationalist groups and the U.S. State Department. Investigative journalist Robert Parry reveals how U.S.-funded political NGOs and media companies have emerged since the 80s replacing the CIA in promoting America's geopolitical agenda abroad.

I dont like or trust Oliver Stone any more than I can throw him but I am starting to watch this and it is interesting - the intro is very worth it Whether you agree with this or not (and I have not finished watching it), it has a lot of great history and it gives a lot of background of all the players.

I am going to assume this is a Russian-funded propaganda piece they hired Stone to do since it tweaks the USA - but still, I think it is worth watching as it is a serious production and is outside of today's media cycle. I have a feeling, that if you watch this, you will at least understand why Ras thinks what he does.

WAIT - HOLY CRAP

This woman - Victoria Nuland is the same one in the film above and is just telling Marco Rubio that there is nothing to see here for bio weapons lab...er "biological research facilities"

Ok, gotta watch this now - very interesting.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Zelensky begs again for NATO to impose a no-fly zone after horrific bombing of maternity hospital as he warns 'millions' could die if the West waits ‘for World War Three to start’ – and adds Putin is ‘going directly to hell’

President Vlodymyr Zelensky warned yesterday that 'millions' of Ukrainians could die if NATO and the West wait for World War Three to start before imposing a no-fly zone over Ukraine to stop Vladimir Putin's bombing campaign.

He also warned that Russia wants Ukrainians to 'feel like animals' as he urged NATO and the West to act two weeks after Moscow launched an all-out invasion of his homeland - and added that Putin is 'going directly to hell'.

'They want us to feel like animals because they blocked our cities, the biggest cities in Ukraine and they blocked them because they don't want our people to get some food or water,' he said in an interview with Sky News.

'We can't stop all of this alone. Only if the world will unite around Ukraine.

'Don't wait for me to ask you several times, a million times, to close the sky. You have to phone us, to our people who lost their children, and say ''sorry we didn't do it yesterday".

Mortuary's workers move a dead body into a plastic bag in outskirts of Mariupol, Ukraine, after the city was bombarded with Russian shelling on Wednesday

Ukrainian servicemen stand in a foxhole in Irpin, on the outskirts of Kyiv, hours before footage emerged showing Russian tanks driving through the suburb, just 13 miles outside the capital

Ukrainian citizens are pictured on the outskirts of Mariupol dropping bodies into a mass grave as the city's inhabitants work to remove the dead amid brutal shelling from Russian troops

Mass grave in Mariupol. Photographer Mstislav Chernov writes that people cannot bury the dead properly due to the constant shelling of the city. March 9, 2022

New members of the Territorial Defence Forces are pictured on training exercises in Kyiv, as Russian troops try to surround the city in preparation for an assault

Oxana Opalenko holds her friend Yulia's two-month-old son Meron shortly after they walked into Poland

A Ukrainian Territorial Defence Forces member hugs a resident who leaves his home town following Russian artillery shelling in Irpin, on the outskirts of Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 9, 2022

Residents cross the destroyed bridge as they flee from the frontline town of Irpin, Kyiv (Kiev) region, Ukraine, 09 March 2022

Zelensky warns 'millions' could die if NATO and the West waits 'for World War Three to start' | Daily Mail Online

 

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[Gandalf]

US slams 'laughable' claim DoD is operating bio labs in Ukraine after China backs Kremlin allegation | Daily Mail Online

Ruh roh - Tucker has this on right now and is reading from the US defense dept admitting that they do have biolabs in Ukraine "studying" anthrax and other chem weapons

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

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Who said this? This isn't information that is top secret or anything. That person should not be ashamed to attach his name to these comments. That way, when all of the dust settles, he can come back and address them later.

 

[landscapingvol]

That is fake news. At every point where Assad and Syria was getting the upper hand in Syria, all of a sudden, a false flag attack pops up. There was no political or military advantage gained by them gassing his own people at that moment when they were winning.

Everything is fake news to you when it comes to Russia, nor is there a military advantage in invading Ukraine. It's very strange how you always defend them

 

[landscapingvol]

Ruh roh - Tucker has this on right now and is reading from the US defense dept admitting that they do have biolabs in Ukraine "studying" anthrax and other chem weapons

And? I am sure we do in a lot of countries as does China and Russia

 

[landscapingvol]

Who said this? This isn't information that is top secret or anything. That person should not be ashamed to attach his name to these comments. That way, when all of the dust settles, he can come back and address them later.

It's hard to have casualties when there is no war being fought with Russia, what with Russia not invading and all. "We had Japanese concentration camps so we are as bad as the Germans, the Russians never put anyone in a concentration camp." I went ahead and typed your reply