War in Ukraine

Russian ex-minister says invasion of Ukraine is stalling because officials stole from military budget for 'mega-yachts in Cyprus'

A former Russian foreign minister claimed that widespread corruption was among the reasons for the Russian military's apparently poor performance in the invasion of Ukraine.

In a Twitter thread over the weekend, Andrey Kozyrev, who served as the foreign minister under President Boris Yeltsin in the 1990s, put forward what he said were misjudgments by President Vladimir Putin in ordering the invasion.

He suggested Putin had overestimated the Russian military — while Putin has dedicated billions of dollars to modernizing Russia's forces, this money, Kozyrev claimed, may have been lost to endemic corruption.

"The Kremlin spent the last 20 years trying to modernize its military. Much of that budget was stolen and spent on mega-yachts in Cyprus. But as a military advisor you cannot report that to the President. So they reported lies to him instead," Kozyrev wrote.

Polina Beliakova, an expert at Tufts University, wrote in Politico this week that rampant corruption meant Russian troops were going into battle in Ukraine with out-of-date rations, faulty equipment, and inadequate fuel supplies.

Western officials have said Putin expected the invasion of Ukraine to be swift. But the capital, Kyiv, is still in Ukrainian control, Russia has failed to establish air superiority, and casualties have mounted amid stiff Ukrainian resistance.

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Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
 
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How are NATO and the Ukraine to blame for Putin's attack on the Ukraine? For the bombing and killing of thousands of civilians?
NATO and the US specifically overthrew the original elected govt of Ukraine in 2014 and proceeded to attack the eastern provinces over the last 8 years. They US also encouraged the Ukrainians to not abide by the Minsk II ceasefire agreements.
 
NATO and the US specifically overthrew the original elected govt of Ukraine in 2014 and proceeded to attack the eastern provinces over the last 8 years. They US also encouraged the Ukrainians to not abide by the Minsk II ceasefire agreements.

Complete and utter BS on your part. Seriously, dude. Stop.

Educate yourself.

Revolution of Dignity
 
Just Putin's. Whatever the U.S., NATO, or the Ukrainian leadership may have done in no way warranted a full scale Russian invasion.
When the Soviets moved missile's to Cuba, the US was prepared to kick off WWIII.

The US orchestrates a coup on a country bordering Russia, that govt then proceeds to attack an ethnically Russian region over the 8 years afterwards, and that country then tries to join a military alliance that is hostile towards Russia... and you say Russia had no justification?

Had the same thing happened in Mexico or Cuba, WTF do you think the US would have done?
 
When the Soviets moved missile's to Cuba, the US was prepared to kick off WWIII.

The US orchestrates a coup on a country bordering Russia, that govt then proceeds to attack an ethnically Russian region over the 8 years afterwards, and that country then tries to join a military alliance that is hostile towards Russia... and you say Russia had no justification?

Had the same thing happened in Mexico or Cuba, WTF do you think the US would have done?
And yet, we didn’t, invalidating your entire post.
 
And yet, we didn’t, invalidating your entire post.
And you know why? Because we had at least one reasonable person on our side make a phone call to Khrushchev and we were able to resolve it within days.

The same could have been done in the last 8 years. We just lacked reasonable people (Obama and Biden) that could make that call to Putin. There was not much reason for Trump to make that call because his administration wasn't stirring it up like these guys. We had peace in our times, for the most part, with Trump in there.
 
When the Soviets moved missile's to Cuba, the US was prepared to kick off WWIII.

The US orchestrates a coup on a country bordering Russia, that govt then proceeds to attack an ethnically Russian region over the 8 years afterwards, and that country then tries to join a military alliance that is hostile towards Russia... and you say Russia had no justification?

Had the same thing happened in Mexico or Cuba, WTF do you think the US would have done?
Did we invade Cuba at that time?
 
Link the time stamp where she acknowledges starting up protests and tricking the Ukrainian president to firing on his people.
No no, let's stay on this before you move the goalposts. Let's first acknowledge that at least 2 weeks prior to the coup, the US already is setting up their puppet govt.
 


Ignorance incarnate.

The United States assisted the Ukrainians in forming an INTERIM government (with Yatsenyuk) to lead things until the general election was held. At that point, the UKRAINIANS chose Poroshenko in a landslide in their 2014 presidential election. If anything, the United States should be commended for helping this fledging democracy navigate things.

And, oh BTW dude, your source tape was provided by a Russian intercept and published by South China Morning Post.

Who's side are you on, eh?
 
Ignorance incarnate.

The United States assisted the Ukrainians in forming an INTERIM government (with Yatsenyuk) to lead things until the general election was held. At that point, the UKRAINIANS chose Poroshenko in a landslide in their 2014 presidential election. If anything, the United States should be commended for helping this fledging democracy navigate things.

And, oh BTW dude, your source tape was provided by South China Morning Post. Who's side are you on, eh?
How did the US know there was going to be a need for an interim government in the first week of February 2014 or earlier?
 
And you know why? Because we had at least one reasonable person on our side make a phone call to Khrushchev and we were able to resolve it within days.

The same could have been done in the last 8 years. We just lacked reasonable people (Obama and Biden) that could make that call to Putin. There was not much reason for Trump to make that call because his administration wasn't stirring it up like these guys. We had peace in our times, for the most part, with Trump in there.
I agree with this….. I found the fact that Israel was the only country that could have dialogue with Putin/Russia concerning….. our enemies are who we need to have that open communication with.
 
That is what Nuland's statements were suggesting she was worried about. She was suggesting that the Russians might use something at these labs for some kind of attack.
I'm not familiar with her statement.
Maybe there is something there for legitimate reasons that can be weaponized.
 
How did the US know there was going to be a need for an interim government in the first week of February 2014 or earlier?

:rolleyes:

Timeline:

In January and February 2014, clashes in Kyiv between protesters and Berkut special riot police resulted in the deaths of 108 protesters and 13 police officers,[19] and the wounding of many others. The first protesters were killed in fierce clashes with police on Hrushevsky Street on 19–22 January. Following this, protesters occupied government buildings throughout the country. The deadliest clashes were on 18–20 February, which saw the most severe violence in Ukraine since it regained independence.[30] Thousands of protesters advanced towards parliament, led by activists with shields and helmets, and were fired on by police snipers.[19] On 21 February, an agreement between President Yanukovych and the leaders of the parliamentary opposition was signed that called for the formation of an interim unity government, constitutional reforms and early elections.[31]

The recorded call took place February 4th. Entirely consistent with the timeline of Ukraine's situation devolving into a potential overthrow of the government.

Look. Just go watch Winter on Fire. It'll give you a really good understanding of how all this went down.

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