War in Ukraine

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Weezy said:
IMO, there's a decent chance of truth to this. It's not why Russia is invading. But we need to get out of the international lab business. Everything we fund or support should be in our borders, in the open. We lose credibility, for good reason, doing this crap.
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When a lab in another country is even suspected or when circumstantial evidence points to it as the source of something that harms us, we should immediately wipe it off the map. If that offends the host country or roasts some nearby citizens, too bad; they shouldn't have been dabbling in the stuff that is or could be the makings of a biological or chemical weapon. There's no excuse for the Wuhan lab (or the funky market) to still be standing. Likewise, anybody here funding, sponsoring, or otherwise assisting gets put out of our misery. That should just be the understood policy like the Israeli tit for tat answer to terrorist attacks.
 
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AM64 said:
When a lab in another country is even suspected or when circumstantial evidence points to it as the source of something that harms us, we should immediately wipe it off the map. If that offends the host country or roasts some nearby citizens, too bad; they shouldn't have been dabbling in the stuff that is or could be the makings of a biological or chemical weapon. There's no excuse for the Wuhan lab (or the funky market) to still be standing. Likewise, anybody here funding, sponsoring, or otherwise assisting gets put out of our misery. That should just be the understood policy like the Israeli tit for tat answer to terrorist attacks.
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Are you saying wet markets should be banned?
 
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I am not siding with Ras or anyone who is more pro Russia but I am also not gonna side against them in this specific war. This war is damn weird and I can’t seem to wrap my head around it. The amount of propaganda and slighted news anymore has made me just decide to take a wait and see approach.

Did Putin bomb a maternity hospital?

Was the hospital a cover for a lab?

I honestly can’t answer any of that. On film it looks like a hospital but now we have our own government admitting their is a bio facility there.

Is that us throwing Ukraine under the bus to help Putin? And is Ukraine kicking Russias arse the way it looks? Or is Russia holding back?

All I know is I sit down every day, coffee in hand, around 4 to 5pm when I take a break and every day the story slightly changed and the narrative shifts a little and the war doesn’t seem to be moving along the way I assumed it would.

Basically, I am really on the fence here and somehow feel like I am watching a huge con game going down and I can’t quite figure out why.
 
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NEO said:
I am not siding with Ras or anyone who is more pro Russia but I am also not gonna side against them in this specific war. This war is damn weird and I can’t seem to wrap my head around it. The amount of propaganda and slighted news anymore has made me just decide to take a wait and see approach.

Did Putin bomb a maternity hospital?

Was the hospital a cover for a lab?

I honestly can’t answer any of that. On film it looks like a hospital but now we have our own government admitting their is a bio facility there.

Is that us throwing Ukraine under the bus to help Putin? And is Ukraine kicking Russias arse the way it looks? Or is Russia holding back?

All I know is I sit down every day, coffee in hand, around 4 to 5pm when I take a break and every day the story slightly changed and the narrative shifts a little and the war doesn’t seem to be moving along the way I assumed it would.

Basically, I am really on the fence here and somehow feel like I am watching a huge con game going down and I can’t quite figure out why.
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We fought for independence once. No matter which way you sway, they seem to be fighting.

We need to back ‘em!
 
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volfanhill said:
Well when you allow a despot to lead you don't expect sympathy when he acts like a despot .
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Lol. You act as if the Russian people can do anything about who leads them. They don’t. But anyway, yeah I am sure everyone in Russia is to blame for Putin. Nobody is innocent in this. Everyone in Ukraine is innocent and every Russian citizen is just a POS that deserves everything they get.

Such empathy.
 
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NEO said:
I am not siding with Ras or anyone who is more pro Russia but I am also not gonna side against them in this specific war. This war is damn weird and I can’t seem to wrap my head around it. The amount of propaganda and slighted news anymore has made me just decide to take a wait and see approach.

Did Putin bomb a maternity hospital?

Was the hospital a cover for a lab?

I honestly can’t answer any of that. On film it looks like a hospital but now we have our own government admitting their is a bio facility there.

Is that us throwing Ukraine under the bus to help Putin? And is Ukraine kicking Russias arse the way it looks? Or is Russia holding back?

All I know is I sit down every day, coffee in hand, around 4 to 5pm when I take a break and every day the story slightly changed and the narrative shifts a little and the war doesn’t seem to be moving along the way I assumed it would.

Basically, I am really on the fence here and somehow feel like I am watching a huge con game going down and I can’t quite figure out why.
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It seems like you've been thinking for yourself on this. The problem is we have too many people who only want to follow their approved "corporate" news on not only this but any other news story. I honestly don't even have to watch those news outlets anymore. I can just go on social media and see what their loyal followers are posting to know what agenda is pushed. Most of these people can't think for themselves. Their news and political party they support does their thinking for them.

Oliver Stone has a documentary out called Ukraine on Fire. French journalist Anne-Laure Bonnel produced a documentary about Donbass in 2016. Which is now up on YouTube and available in English subtitles. I'm sure the censors won't allow those to be up for long.

Then of course there are multiple documentaries on Stepan Bandera and the Ukrainian "far right" and nationalists that have been produced in recent years.

I'm no fan of Putin either as I believe he is simply a tool to help push the globalist agenda but in no way is the West and the recent government of Ukraine innocent in all of this.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Please tell us how many times Russia attacked Ukraine, inflation skyrocketed to a 40 year high and gas prices increased like this under Trump. So is it your assumption that anyone who likes Trump is a cultist moron?
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Inflation jumped to a 40 year high because we increased the money supply by 40% after Covid. Biden is generally a moron, but that's not really his fault. 1/4 of all dollars ever created in our 246 year history were created in 2020.

Lots of stuff to blame clueless Joe for but inflation isn't really one of them.
 
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