War in Ukraine

[IluvdoubleD's]

So far today he hit a theater and a swimming pool. Both where civilians were holing up. many dead. Why are you listening to "truth" twits?

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Yes. All of our wars in the past have made us more peaceful now.

Remind me how well the War to End all Wars went?

"Just a few more wars and we'll be able to end all war."

 

[luthervol]

Might be a good time to remind the warhawks we were long ago warned about going not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy...John Quincy Adams...

Things have changed just a tad.

 

[luthervol]

It actually does the opposite. Also, even if true, it doesn't help the average American citizen.

No it doesn't do the opposite. And yes, a more peaceful world helps everyone, even us Americans.

 

[MontyPython]

FWIW my girlfriend's 22 YO daughter is in her 4th week of Army bootcamp @ Ft. Jackson, GA. Beat every damn guy in her squad in the physical tests last week. Friggin millennial guys... come on man!

At any rate, yeah, we support no American boots on the ground. Hope we avoid WWIII. In the meantime, send the kitchen sink over there materiel wise.

 

[volgr]

So far today he hit a theater and a swimming pool. Both where civilians were holing up. many dead. Why are you listening to "truth" twits?

And shot Ukrainians waiting in a bread line...dont forget that one.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

If they are allegedly taking out tanks in Mariupol, then surely they can take care of that 40 mile convoy outside of Kiev, right?

 

[luthervol]

How so? It's him and boys his age that would have to fight the war over the ICJ ruling you want enforced.

It's you and people your age teaching in the schools you wish to see improved.

 

[VolStrom]

FWIW my girlfriend's 22 YO daughter is in her 4th week of Army bootcamp @ Ft. Jackson, GA. Beat every damn guy in her squad in the physical tests last week. Friggin millennial guys... come on man!

At any rate, yeah, we support no American boots on the ground. Hope we avoid WWIII. In the meantime, send the kitchen sink over there materiel wise.

Did she use to be a guy?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Again, no one can answer the question, how does picking a side in this ridiculous conflict help the average American citizen. If you're worried about Ukrainians, they are taking foreign fighters and there are people who will pay your way over there.

I've been asking that same question. All I get (from both neocons and neo-liberals) is the feelz.

 

[volgr]

Things have changed just a tad.

Not really. The consequences JQA predicted for such actions were actually pretty spot on. We cant be friendly with Russia and Ukraine and let them sort out their differences? Do we really care who controls Crimea and the Donbass if we are friendly with both sides?

 

[hog88]

It's you and people your age teaching in the schools you wish to see improved.

I take this as one of your typical dodges and you have nothing of substance to add.

 

[MontyPython]

Did she use to be a guy?

Heh. She's a tough cookie. OCS after boot camp. We're both very proud of her.

 

[luthervol]

When you bang war drums all the while asking other people to send their sons and daughters to war while keeping your own safe doesn't exactly ring many peoples bells about teaching.

What? My son chose to not join the military. I don't want him trying to pull over a drunk driver because he chose not to be a LEO.
I don't want him performing surgery because he chose not to be a surgeon. I don't want him representing someone in court because he chose not to be a lawyer.....I guess you get the point.

 

[allvol123]

I have a 16 year old son and ain't no way in hell I would risk his life for some regional skirmish in Ukraine. Anyone willing to risk American blood over there isn't a serious person.

Are you expecting him to get drafted?

 

[volgr]

I've been asking that same question. All I get (from both neocons and neo-liberals) is the feelz.

Feelz and because media tells them to support the current thing and if they dont they love Putin and hate America.

 

[luthervol]

Yes. All of our wars in the past have made us more peaceful now.

Remind me how well the War to End all Wars went?

That's because we hadn't reached the point where it could be the War to End all Wars - that takes a global commitment.

 

[Orangeburst]

They are probably like the balsa wood planes I flew as a kid, unless everything is just right they go straight up and do a loop and come back down and kill the entire platoon.

For like $50 you can go buy one of those lightweight RC 2-channel planes..I got into somewhat several years ago, and those things will go up so high you can barely see them. Quite a rush trying to bring her down. It is fun...I may have to get back into it. I upgraded and probably spent $600-700 on the things

 

[hog88]

What? My son chose to not join the military. I don't want him trying to pull over a drunk driver because he chose not to be a LEO.
I don't want him performing surgery because he chose not to be a surgeon. I don't want him representing someone in court because he chose not to be a lawyer.....I guess you get the point.

Don't ask for war unless you are willing to send your son/daughters to do the fighting.

 

[Vol423]

FWIW my girlfriend's 22 YO daughter is in her 4th week of Army bootcamp @ Ft. Jackson, GA. Beat every damn guy in her squad in the physical tests last week. Friggin millennial guys... come on man!

At any rate, yeah, we support no American boots on the ground. Hope we avoid WWIII. In the meantime, send the kitchen sink over there materiel wise.

I'm guessing your girlfriend's daughter must have gained an advantage by being the only one smart enough to put down their cell phone while performing the physical tests.

 

[VolStrom]

What? My son chose to not join the military. I don't want him trying to pull over a drunk driver because he chose not to be a LEO.
I don't want him performing surgery because he chose not to be a surgeon. I don't want him representing someone in court because he chose not to be a lawyer.....I guess you get the point.

I get your point, you want other people's kids to fight for you. As long as your family is safe, send in the expendables.

 

[luthervol]

Not really. The consequences JQA predicted for such actions were actually pretty spot on. We cant be friendly with Russia and Ukraine and let them sort out their differences? Do we really care who controls Crimea and the Donbass if we are friendly with both sides?

When did it become appropriate for countries to declare war on Hitler's Germany? Only when they were attacked?

 

[luthervol]

I take this as one of your typical dodges and you have nothing of substance to add.

Take as a reflection of how stupid your comment was.

 

[luthervol]

Don't ask for war unless you are willing to send your son/daughters to do the fighting.

That's stupid. People join the military for a reason.

 

[luthervol]

I get your point, you want other people's kids to fight for you. As long as your family is safe, send in the expendables.

That's stupid. I want people who join the military to perform the function of the military. I want doctors to be doctors. I want lawyers to be lawyers. I want plumbers to be plumbers. It's not a difficult concept.