War in Ukraine

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hog88 said:
Don't ask for war unless you are willing to send your son/daughters to do the fighting.
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We have a military comprised of volunteer adults. My feelings on sending my kids into said situation should be absolutely irrelevant to the powers that be deciding what is best in terms of using the military to defend the interests of this nation.
 
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luthervol said:
What? My son chose to not join the military. I don't want him trying to pull over a drunk driver because he chose not to be a LEO.
I don't want him performing surgery because he chose not to be a surgeon. I don't want him representing someone in court because he chose not to be a lawyer.....I guess you get the point.
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No, what is your point?
 
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MontyPython said:
FWIW my girlfriend's 22 YO daughter is in her 4th week of Army bootcamp @ Ft. Jackson, GA. Beat every damn guy in her squad in the physical tests last week. Friggin millennial guys... come on man!

At any rate, yeah, we support no American boots on the ground. Hope we avoid WWIII. In the meantime, send the kitchen sink over there materiel wise.
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Well, it is Ft. Jackson.
 
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allvol123 said:
We have a military comprised of volunteer adults. My feelings on sending my kids into said situation should be absolutely irrelevant to the powers that be deciding what is best in terms of using the military to defend the interests of this nation.
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Ukraine is not in the interest of this nation, not to the point of spilling our blood. This is Europes problem and if they want to send their soldiers in so be it.
 
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luthervol said:
When did it become appropriate for countries to declare war on Hitler's Germany? Only when they were attacked?
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Is Hitler and Chamberlain going to be the template of how every conflict in the future will be? Or can we be honest and admit that the situation was an outlier? And really, the ramifications of Archduke Ferdinand's assassination was a one off.
 
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volgr said:
None of those professions equate to military service. Maybe that is the issue, you dont value nor understand military service. Ahh, we sprung a leak over in Ukraine, send the plumber.
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Today has revealed that people on both sides of the aisle have a lack of respect and appreciation for their fellow man.
 
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LouderVol said:
This is why the MIC runs so much and makes googols of money off us.

The military leaders absolutely should take into consideration public support.
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What is MIC?

I’m sure they do, as the orders start from the elected. But it shouldn’t. We should have defined criteria for what, when, and why we engage. Not a war based on what emotions can get ginned up. That cuts both ways.
 
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luthervol said:
Nope, nor is it to sit idly by and watch invasion of another country with the slaughter of thousands of innocent women and children out of fear of provoking the invader.
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Save me this faux concern about women and children when you and your political peers were out here wanting forced experimental jabs on people and willing to ruin their livelihoods if they did not comply. And the countless tens of thousands or possibly hundreds of thousands that could have been saved by allowing alternative treatments outside of the approved FDA/CDC list of treatments.
 
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hog88 said:
Are you daft or something? War as a last resort to defend the US or as a result of an attack on us.
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Yes those are silly and outrageous, just making the point to the extreme.

It is oft made statement around here , something to the effect of “if you ain’t willing to go” or “would you send yer kids”.

It is outlandishly stupid. We have a volunteer army. It’s use should be activated when it meets out parameters for use and emotions should be irrelevant.
 
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allvol123 said:
Yes those are silly and outrageous, just making the point to the extreme.

It is oft made statement around here , something to the effect of “if you ain’t willing to go” or “would you send yer kids”.

It is outlandishly stupid. We have a volunteer army. It’s use should be activated when it meets out parameters for use and emotions should be irrelevant.
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The parameters should be simple yet we have too many people like Luther in our government who feel those parameters should include feelings. And they should be shouted down at every turn.
 
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