War in Ukraine

[0nelilreb]

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I think you are buying into all the stats you post , if you think any country couldn’t put us in our place with a nuke and first strike . You guys have lost you damn minds . You thinking Russia can’t cause wide scale death on an international level is nuts . TIK TOK videos of left behind puppies and burned tanks has fcked with your rational thinking process .

 

[MontyPython]

1 nuke makes it through our screen could easily be millions dead.

That would be a sobering lesson for anyone.

True that.

Of course, such action would only be taken by a madman, as Russia would have nukes rained upon it in retaliation.

 

[MontyPython]

Arnold Schwarzenegger's message to the Russian people

Well done.

 

[0nelilreb]

Only if Putin made that choice.

Possibly Kill millions to save a few ? I can’t wait until our next convo about what’s good for society as a whole .

 

[MontyPython]

Trouble brewing at home for Putin?

Three independent sources report that the deputy chief of Russia's Rosgvardia (a unit of RU's interior army which has had tremendous losses in Ukraine), Gen. Roman Gavrilov has been detained by FSB. Gavrilov had also previously worked in FSO, Putin's security service.

 

[0nelilreb]

True that.

Of course, such action would only be taken by a madman, as Russia would have nukes rained upon it in retaliation.

How many times has he been called a mad man, a dictator, a murderer ? The amount of War hawks this thing has brought out of the closet is astounding .

 

[lawgator1]

How many times has he been called a mad man, a dictator, a murderer ? The amount of War hawks this thing has brought out of the closet is astounding .

Nobody wants war. Just have to be realistic about what he's doing and trying to balance the value of deterrence versus escalation.

 

[luthervol]

Now that is some low level logic. Good Lord.

Have to break it down for you guys.
Low level logic comes before high level logic.

 

[luthervol]

Nothing says strength and determination like setting measures that you won't actually follow through with.

I would expect follow through.

 

[luthervol]

Except that we started it by choosing to post the no fly zone.

Declaring a no fly zone is an act of war by whoever does it.

lol.....He started it by committing war crimes in Ukraine. Why have we put in sanctions? Is that us starting it?

 

[davethevol]

Trouble brewing at home for Putin?

Three independent sources report that the deputy chief of Russia's Rosgvardia (a unit of RU's interior army which has had tremendous losses in Ukraine), Gen. Roman Gavrilov has been detained by FSB. Gavrilov had also previously worked in FSO, Putin's security service.

Let’s hope. I doubt anyone that replaces him will be much different, but maybe it will buy future generations more time.

 

[MontyPython]

Hoping the Chinese continue (seemingly) to not support Russia. If China sits on its hands and effectively opts to freeze the Russian Central Bank assets ($90B), that would be huge.

4 ways China is quietly making life harder for Russia

Sitting on reserves

The most significant help China could offer Russia is through the $90 billion worth of reserves Moscow holds in yuan, wrote Alicia García-Herrero, chief economist for Asia Pacific at Natixis, in a research report on Tuesday.

Sanctions have frozen about $315 billion worth of Russia's reserves — or roughly half the total — as Western countries have banned dealing with the Russian central bank.

Russia's finance minister Anton Siluanov said this week that the country wanted to use yuan reserves after Moscow was blocked from accessing US dollars and euros, according to Russia's state media.

The PBOC has so far not made any comment about its position regarding these reserves.

If China allowed Moscow to convert its yuan reserves into US dollars or euros, "that would clearly help Russia's current impasse," García-Herrero noted. However, "the reputational risk of potentially breaching Western sanctions would be a huge step for the PBOC to take and therefore makes it highly unlikely," she said.

"The long-term gains of moving closer to Russia might not match the impact of Western investors suddenly losing interest in China," she added.

 

[0nelilreb]

lol.....He started it by committing war crimes in Ukraine. Why have we put in sanctions? Is that us starting it?

Yes it’s a chess game . He started it , we responded ( escalated it) with sanctions , we declare a no fly zone .. what do you think is the next move on the chess board ?

 

[TheDeeble]

I would expect follow through.

Never would have pictured you as an advocate for escalating to WW3. Sending supplies to Ukraine is not the same as getting NATO aircraft involved in shooting down Russian planes.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Lack of knowledge is a common skill of many of the posters here on Volnation.

As it would appear the skillful use of the English language may also be lacking.

 

[MG1968]

Yes it’s a chess game . He started it , we responded ( escalated it) with sanctions , we declare a no fly zone .. what do you think is the next move on the chess board ?

Luther clearly thinks that Putin will consider his bluff called and order a full withdrawal from Ukraine.

 

[LouderVol]

True that.

Of course, such action would only be taken by a madman, as Russia would have nukes rained upon it in retaliation.

Russia starts losing a war and who knows what Putin would do.

He played the nuke card in a war he is winning.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Luther clearly thinks that Putin will consider his bluff called and order a full withdrawal from Ukraine.

Luther has turned into John Bolton. Dear heavens.

 

[DonjoVol]

Luther has turned into John Bolton. Dear heavens.

He also said McCain had very high integrity.

 

[LouderVol]

lol.....He started it by committing war crimes in Ukraine. Why have we put in sanctions? Is that us starting it?

Sanctions arent military action, I dont care what Ras says. No fly zones are military actions. I dont care that Russia is starting to counter sanction us. That's not people dying.

Going from booing in the stands to suiting up and a playing in the third down short yardage package are two very different scenarios of involvement.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Backing into the corner

He may want to bring in someone to sniff his underwear.

 

[evillawyer]

Putin's likely reaction to the Uzbekistan announcement

 

[luthervol]

Are you really this dense? WTF do you think we’d be keeping out of the skies over Ukraine?

I think it is you who are dense....you said, and I quote
"He doesn’t understand the ramifications of a NATO plane downing a Russian aircraft."

as if you do understand the ramifications. If it's never been done, no one knows anything, it's purely speculation.
Putin's playing on that fear of the unknown as he slaughters innocent people.

 

[luthervol]

Yes it’s a chess game . He started it , we responded ( escalated it) with sanctions , we declare a no fly zone .. what do you think is the next move on the chess board ?

He adheres to the no fly zone.

 

[allvol123]

Russia starts losing a war and who knows what Putin would do.

He played the nuke card in a war he is winning.

What war is he winning?