War in Ukraine

[IluvdoubleD's]

Putin does not want to melt himself any more than we do. If you are worried about nukes pay attention to north korea, who Russians are selling tech to. We want to keep it out of N korean amatuer hands.

 

[Velo Vol]

It's a long-term loser for him.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

He's starting to figure it out, but the thing about Putin is, if you push an ass hole into a corner, he is likely to **** on you. Putin plays a very long game.

 

[Orangeburst]

It's a long-term loser for him.

Or they (Putin and CCP) want to give Biden a win on purpose....now that is long game

 

[Velo Vol]

The admin wants a war in a bad way.

Very cunning of Biden to get Putin to move 100,000 troops to that end. And here I thought these guys couldn't shoot straight.

 

[Orangeburst]

Very cunning of Biden to get Putin to move 100,000 troops to that end. And here I thought these guys couldn't shoot straight.

Obviously coordinated with the CCP...Putin would never expose his eastern flank to the CCP without some assurance or agreement. They are stationed there for a reason.

 

[NorthDallas40]

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Alright what did I miss again.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Here's a breakdown of lend/lease with Russia for those interested.

Lend-Lease tanks and aircrafts

Thanks for that. Looks like they did indeed get a bunch of Hurricanes as was stated earlier. They got a few P-47s indeed but the lion share was the P-39/63 it appears which the put to very good use. I didn’t know we gave them that many B-25’s either.

 

[Orangeburst]

Alright what did I miss again.

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[Orangeburst]

Alright what did I miss again.

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[Orangeburst]

Alright what did I miss again.

I said the captured B-29 became the Tu-4 and thought..hell you already know that...

Actually I called you all sort of nasty names and didnt want to get banned.

 

[85SugarVol]

That he did.

FDR had visions of empire, letting the British empire get destroyed and splitting it up with the Russians. I also believe be planned on staying in office until one of his sons could succeed him.

Random Fun Fact:

The 3 FDR sons that went into politics were married a combined 14 times. Those boys got around…

 

[luthervol]

Very cunning of Biden to get Putin to move 100,000 troops to that end. And here I thought these guys couldn't shoot straight.

Biden is playing 3-d shuffle board.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

I actually think Germany is playing 3d, with. Americas blessing, and that's ok.

 

[Orangeburst]

Random Fun Fact:

The 3 FDR sons that went into politics were married a combined 14 times. Those boys got around…

FDR was quite the philanthropist..esteemed in progressive circles...Rings a bell when talking about character of pols.
Personally I think his programs caused such prolonged malaise, which took a WW to get out of, that he was the most misguided President of all time.

 

[volfanhill]

Need something for the mid terms.

I don't think it's going to help them. As a country, I think we are finally at the point where we have little desire publicly to get involved.

 

[Matt2496]

Biden sending troops to Eastern Europe soon as Ukraine turmoil intensifies

 

[Matt2496]

So Biden is going to send in the troops when Russia takes action. This is exactly what I've thought was going to happen. Biden wants to distract from the problems here at home. What better way than another war?

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

if biden is a bulsjitter? then war with the biden is hullshit. wwe will see fore seeers. you think you are so smart. in fact my grandfather would have annihilated you.

 

[Orangeburst]

Wars and rumors of wars.

Sorry..but Putin is not going to invade Ukraine unless it is some conspired plan with the CCP for some type of death kneel to Pax Americana. Russia cannot leave its Siberian flank open to the CCP with such troop movements.

I just do not see the purpose of Ukraine in itself as being worth the blood and treasure and possibly resulting in some escalating WW3 response. What is Putin's objective other than some fantastical reinvention of the USSR?
Moving conscripted troops and supplies in nation is not expensive when a nation has so many fuel reserves. Russia has been used as the bogeyman far too many times the past few years for my liking. The man is an opportunist and believes in self preserveance as indicated by his tenure.

And tiny Crimea is not even on the scale to Ukraine. So this is some Hail Mary big time stuff conspired with the CCP, or some bluff. JMO.

 

[Orangeburst]

The Best or Worst of Both Worlds?

2020 article...Russia is not equipped to go it alone to anything that escalates a non Article 5 NATO response. 11th largest economy in world.
OMG they are moving "blood supplies"

 

[NEO]

The Finns thoroughly whipped them even though the Soviets held a tremendous military advantage

Can’t dispute that.

 

[hog88]

Random Fun Fact:

The 3 FDR sons that went into politics were married a combined 14 times. Those boys got around…

One, I think the 2nd son was involved in some serious graft while he was in the Air Corp. If he wasn’t the son of FDR he would have probably went to prison.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

So instead of working diplomatically to accomplish this farce they went straight to invasion?

Please show us any evidence of this theoretical military buildup, or even reason to believe there is a planned military buildup from NATO.

You sound crazy right now.

WTF are you talking about? They haven't invaded anything. And they have worked on a diplomatic solution but the US only comes with unreasonable terms. The US is not a an honestly trying to resolve this.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

This is crazy talk.

I know. I can't understand why any of these neocons think this is a rational way of conducting things with a nuclear peer.