Was it the blown no call that cost the titans

#26
#26
footballref said:
I agree that all aspects cost the Titans. That said, we don't know that the officials were using the play clock that we could see. Do we know that the BJ was not timing the play clock himself? If this is the case, they could have very well been a second or more difference in the two.
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He was looking at the cheerleaders , it's was obvious.





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#28
#28
The Titans played pretty well but turnovers and not having CJ in the 2nd half hurt their chances...the no call by the refs led to the field goal which gave the Ravens the win. BAD officiating in a very important game! Those refs should be fired, imo.:ermm:
 
#29
#29
ladyVOLfan333 said:
The Titans played pretty well but turnovers and not having CJ in the 2nd half hurt their chances...the no call by the refs led to the field goal which gave the Ravens the win. BAD officiating in a very important game! Those refs should be fired, imo.:ermm:
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I dont think they should be fired , but I do think they should have to own up to their mistakes.
 
#33
#33
i saw a replay of it after the game and he didn't step out. In the pic you can't tell if his back foot is touching the grass. Looks like a bad angle to me.
 
#34
#34
I'd be interested in seeing another replay of it, but watching it live and looking at that picture, it sure looks like at least the inside part of his foot is out.
 
#35
#35
i don't know how, but i think the picture is deceiving too. on espn last night, they showed an overhead view and he clearly did not step out of bounds. it's weird at how convincing that picture looks.
 
#40
#40
buckeyevol23 said:
Just because a team plays badly doesn't give refs an excuse to miss calls.
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And what gives the players and coaches reasons to do things badly?

They all, players, coaches, and officials, are going to miss things.

It is just so easy to blame the officials
 
#41
#41
ladyVOLfan333 said:
The Titans played pretty well but turnovers and not having CJ in the 2nd half hurt their chances...the no call by the refs led to the field goal which gave the Ravens the win. BAD officiating in a very important game! Those refs should be fired, imo.:ermm:
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Laughable...one assumed no call...should you be fired from your job with one screw up?

Players, coaches, and officials mess up equally...if the Titans had played better, this one no call would not even be an issue. It just happened to be a close game...so now it is the officials fault...lol
 
#43
#43
Sorry guys. It just hits a nerve with me when everyone just sits back and loves to blame the officials. Before I became an official, I would do the same thing. Now that I have done it for a few years, I realize how much easier it is from the stands, or in this case watching the TV.

These guys are expected to be perfect from the beginning and only get better from there. Unfair really. At home, we have the advantage of seeing plays over and over in slow motion and super slow motion. They have to make whatever calls they make in a split second, and they have to be pretty dang accurate.

Calls do get missed. Any official at ANY level will miss calls. The guys in the NFL are good. They were typically some of the better officials in whatever college conference they came from. The college guys were some of the best in either a smaller college conference or in high school. Your Friday night high school guys are usually some of the better ones in local associations.

I have said it before and will continue to say it. Officials cannot cost you the game anymore than players or coaches. One critical call late in the game is no more costly than a dropped pass in the end zone in the first quarter or a missed field goal in the third quarter. Nothing is ever thought of when it comes to these plays. If the play clock had expired on the third play of the game and delay of game was not called, no one would have ever thought anything at all about it. It is only an issue because it happened late in a close game. If Alge Crumpler had not fumbled inside the 10 and the Titans would have scored, this play would probably never been brought up either.
 
#45
#45
footballref said:
Yeah, I read that afterwards as well. What he is saying is true. There will nearly always be a delay. The last thing the BJ would want is to be watching the play clock, whether the one on the field or the one on his wrist, it hit zero...him immediately throw the flag and blow his whistle and the ball has just been snapped.

I am not here to totally take up for the officials. Being that I do what they do, just at a different level. I personally feel as if an official cannot "blow" a game with one call made or not made. That is so much that goes on during the game that dictates the outcome of the game.

as someone previously posted, if you are in the situation that you need to blame one call on an official, there is something you didn't do right throughout the rest of the game.

Do officials miss calls? Yes
Do coaches make bad decisions? Yes
Do players make mistakes? Yes

It is a combination of everything that causes a team to win or lose a game,

Officials are the only ones expected to be perfect from the beginning and then get better from there.

Sorry...I will get off my soapbox for now :)
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That article is crap. It would be understandable if the play clock had only been on zero for .5 to 1 second... not 2-2.5 seconds. They flat out screwed it up and are trying to make excuse about a 'natural delay'... there was no 2.5 second natural delay on our delay of game earlier in the game.
 
#46
#46
No, we messed it all up by turning it over multiple times, and all the penalties we accumulated. However, it was a blown call, and it should have been call.

Oh well, 2009 will be better.
 
#47
#47
footballref said:
And what gives the players and coaches reasons to do things badly?

They all, players, coaches, and officials, are going to miss things.

It is just so easy to blame the officials
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There is no excuse for the no-call on Delay of Game.

Here's something:

In the Giants/Eagles game the Giants had the ball and snapped the ball around the 2:00 mark. They ran for 6 yards. Andy Reid (HFC Eagles) then brought it to the Ref's attention that the clock had indeed reached the 2:00 mark, they reviewed it (not a Coaches Challenge) and overturned the play. The Giants then had the ball with a 1st and 10 at the 2:00 mark.

If that can happen, why can't the fact that the ball was snapped with 2 seconds passing off of the play clock in the Titans game?
 
#48
#48
The one no call did not cost the Titans the game.

It no more cost them the game then turnovers and penalties.

The call may have been missed. One call....how about 3 Titans turnovers?

Yet, lets fire the officials...why not release the Titans players that caused the turnovers. Or yet, the players that had penalties called on them.

Am I sounding stupid now? Yes....but no worse than people wanting to blame the one no call, of what appears to be, a delay of game.

I think we aill ever agree on this :)
 
#49
#49
footballref said:
The one no call did not cost the Titans the game.

It no more cost them the game then turnovers and penalties.

The call may have been missed. One call....how about 3 Titans turnovers?

Yet, lets fire the officials...why not release the Titans players that caused the turnovers. Or yet, the players that had penalties called on them.

Am I sounding stupid now? Yes....but no worse than people wanting to blame the one no call, of what appears to be, a delay of game.

I think we aill ever agree on this :)
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That game was destined to be a very very close and hard-fought game. Yes, the Titans committed turnovers that play a definite role in costing them the game.


That does NOT, however, mean that the delay of game no-call did not cost them. If the Ravens had won 21-10... it wouldn't mean anything. They won 13-10 and got that final field goal on the drive that was opened up because of the resulting play off of that no-call. That's a little more meaningful than what you're painting the situation out to be.
 
#50
#50
penalties didn't help, but the turnovers on drives where you should have come away with points was the dagger that killed the Titans.
 
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