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#76
#76
Until someone portals their way to a championship, it isn't proven as a viable strategy to become elite. About the closest I've seen is when a HC gets another job and takes the team with him.
While I don’t disagree, the portal is still a relatively new thing in how it works today and FSU was well on their way to at least competing for a championship last year from basically an entire starting roster of portal players until Jordan Travis got hurt.

Clemson’s fall from grace is proof that you have to get elite players from the portal though to be a championship contender.

The state of Tennessee doesn’t produce talent like these states do that have colleges who are playing for championships. Oregon being outlier because they taken over the entire West coast and last year’s Washington team.
 
#77
#77
Great, first loser. Downhill since the Tennessee victory on that same year. As I said, bold stance for a coach who hasn’t won anything.
He's at least played for a national championship to. Got routed like we just did but...... did make a title game.

I don't think he's a great coach either but he's not bottom of the barrel. For Pete's sake LSU has won titles with their last 3 coaches 2 of whom were Ed O and Les lol. They'll always have a good chance just on talent alone. CJH hasn't won anything either so we probably shouldn't be throwing stones in glass houses
 
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#79
Damn since you already foretold next season why don’t you give me some investing tips while you are looking into the future.
It’s a message board to share opinions . . . Or so I thought. Sorry if the projection doesn’t meet with your expectations. It’s all a guess. Someone else’s guess is as good as mine.

To be fair, Bama and UF are not world beaters now either.

But you cannot honestly think - based on a clear pattern - that they will suddenly be giant killers in road games . . . Right? There is zero evidence to suggest it. Florida was bad the last two years - waxed us at their place and it took OT to beat them at home this year.

Regardless of any particular season . . . My opinion is recruiting in the 5-7 range (the gap is BIG from UGA for example to us) and what it seems we have in our current coordinators . . . Likely doesn’t equal much beyond what we have seen . . . Which is miraculous really considering where the program was. 10-2 with what we had this year was an amazing season.
 
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You don't know what you are talking about, per your own admission, and are just posting to argue. Have it young blood.
Nobody on this message board knows what they are talking about. We’re just talking. I’m still waiting on someone to tell me who we should have signed and didn’t
 
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For me, I'll be happy with some 2, 3 star WRs who believe upon the Lord and represent the University of Tennessee with class and character. Take your time Heupel, don't let the internet distract you from finding culture fits. I'd rather have players use their headphones during warmups to hear "Hail the Blest Morn" than a drum track with the chorus "Murder an Elderly for Looking at me Funny".

Last time we did the opposite we had BB Gun robberies at fueling depots. For me, take your take Heupel. I'd also like to find some WR recruits who fit our culture and can tell funny jokes in the post game interviews. Need charisma. Keep me posted.
 
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Totally agree. It’s easy to see 3 losses easy (Bama FL UGA). Probably add at least one more. Maybe 2

Looking at the schedule I think those 3 are the most likely losses.

Cuse is pretty good under Fran Brown but that should be a win in what is a neutral site that will likely be like a home game with the amount of Vol fans there.

Will be an Orange out though between Vol and Cuse fans lol
 
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For me, I'll be happy with some 2, 3 star WRs who believe upon the Lord and represent the University of Tennessee with class and character. Take your time Heupel, don't let the internet distract you from finding culture fits. I'd rather have players use their headphones during warmups to hear "Hail the Blest Morn" than a drum track with the chorus "Murder an Elderly for Looking at me Funny".

Last time we did the opposite we had BB Gun robberies at fueling depots. For me, take your take Heupel. I'd also like to find some WR recruits who fit our culture and can tell funny jokes in the post game interviews. Need charisma. Keep me posted.
Same. I just want players I like cheering for. Sampson, Bru, Nico, Eli Simmons. Fun loving guys
 
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He's at least played for a national championship to. Got routed like we just did but...... did make a title game.

I don't think he's a great coach either but he's not bottom of the barrel. For Pete's sake LSU has won titles with their last 3 coaches 2 of whom were Ed O and Les lol. They'll always have a good chance just on talent alone. CJH hasn't won anything either so we probably shouldn't be throwing stones in glass houses
At ND where he was gifted postseason by not playing in a league. Advantage Heupel with head to head win in LSU’s best season under Kelly. Taking Tennessee to a #1 ranking and postseason play in different seasons.
 
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Same. I just want players I like cheering for. Sampson, Bru, Nico, Eli Simmons. Fun loving guys
Exactly Sampson was recruited by us, then Arkansas, Purdue, WKU. Northwestern, Wake Forest, Tulane, Nichols, Louisiana (not LSU), Southern miss lol

On a serious note beyond my exaggerating we are fine and have a great OT coming in
 
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Oline help coming very soon!!

Vols need more than Sanders and the one portal IOL guy that TN landed. No depth at oline and zero development of olinemen - Elarbee is in way over his head - he is unqualified and overpaid. But whatever.
 
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Vols need more than Sanders and the one portal IOL guy that TN landed. No depth at oline and zero development of olinemen - Elarbee is in way over his head - he is unqualified and overpaid. But whatever.
We got Thompson. Just lining up last min details. He can play OT or OG.
 
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Please expound on the Tuckman cycle when you can. Tia.

ETA: I had some time so I looked it up. Very interesting. Glad you shared.

do you have any personal experience with Tuckman's theory?
I dont remember studying it formally way back in bschool but I would think it fairly well known model for those looking to become better leaders. It is a useful framework in many types of team building. Startups, political campaigns, working with clients, leading a project, even volunteering at church or getting the family on something. At each stage, you want to focus on different things to maximize success and jumping from the chaos of formation to expectations of high performance is a recipe for failure.

First their must be interpersonal bonds built, then a normative model of behavior is introduced (what we all expect), if the group ties are sufficient, the model will be peer enforced instead of top down. Once this level is achieved it helps to introduce a common enemy or group challenge to complete the us vs them mechanic and drive motivation. Finally with cohesion, self enforcement and motive, the group can focus on performance and this usually is managed by working on streamlining processes to improve efficiency and culminates in either project completion or for operations, continuous improvement.

Many want to jump to streamlining processes first but without getting to that stage, it is more important to lay the rest of the foundation to improve teamwork.

Edit- I forgot to add, I have pretty much used this framework personally in managing teams across a multiplicity of endeavors - 2 startups, consulting with fortune 500, political gigs, etc. It makes me wonder, back 30+ years ago when I wasnt really aware of the dynamic but was still managing some things, what was I even doing? 😂
 
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Vols need more than Sanders and the one portal IOL guy that TN landed. No depth at oline and zero development of olinemen - Elarbee is in way over his head - he is unqualified and overpaid. But whatever.
Looks as thought they are landing the #3 OT in the portal too. Josh Thompson
 
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Why do we suppose we let so many receivers walk? They had to know their time was coming, and then we seemingly have no plan to replace them.
 
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At ND where he was gifted postseason by not playing in a league. Advantage Heupel with head to head win in LSU’s best season under Kelly. Taking Tennessee to a #1 ranking and postseason play in different seasons.
Agree with the gifted postseason. Heupel beat Saban head to head so is he better? Did Tennessee finish #1? Has CJH won more post season games? You're just cherry picking
 
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#97
The portal isn’t the most important part of building a team
no it is not but it is very important to upgrade and add talent at positions where we need help and we need help at many positions going into the 2025 season. Need portal help at WR, OL, DB and another RB, 2 LB'S
 
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#99
#99
Nice win against Ole Miss (KY golden moment too). Beats a mediocre LSU team and wins games against a bad FSU team. Which part is nauseating?
Lagway is gonna be a dog. They put together a great recruiting class and they are cleaning up in the portal. Oh yeah and Florida is the bain of my existence and we have to go to the swamp next year. You want me to keep going?
 

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