We Have 25 Commits

[Spirit_of_98]

Per usual this board is wrong. Last year we took 32, when people for over a year on this board kept saying we couldn't take more than 30.

I am not going to expound on the details of how we get to 28 other than what i have said already. It's already been noted that the staff has said to some people around the program at a function that we will "sign" 28 and finish with a top 5 class.

You guys can try to argue and debate about how we get to 28 till you are blue in the face, but that is out of BJ's own mouth. So unless you guys know more about our staff's plans than Butch himself, i'll again defer to the brilliant braintrust and group-think of Volnation.

Lol we had people saying 29 at one point last year. Butch finally came out and said "We will sign 32."

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Per usual this board is wrong. Last year we took 32, when people for over a year on this board kept saying we couldn't take more than 30.

I am not going to expound on the details of how we get to 28 other than what i have said already. It's already been noted that the staff has said to some people around the program at a function that we will "sign" 28 and finish with a top 5 class.

You guys can try to argue and debate about how we get to 28 till you are blue in the face, but that is out of BJ's own mouth. So unless you guys know more about our staff's plans than Butch himself, i'll again defer to the brilliant braintrust and group-think of Volnation.

If CBJ has said "we will sign 28", obviously no one has seen it. Rivals, Scout, 247, Hubbs, Callahan, no one has mentioned 28 as being a possibility for signees in 2015other than you. Getting to 32 last year was possible by back counting. With no spots to back count, 28 sounds like a lot of BS to me.

JMO

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Lol we had people saying 29 at one point last year. Butch finally came out and said "We will sign 32."

The number bounced around a lot last year as I don't think anyone really knew how many spots UT actually had they could back count. With them filling them all last year in taking the 32, obviously it makes it a lot easier to figure out going forward.

 

[Vol Revolver]

That's pretty disgusting.

Yea that's a bit much. Although it's fake, it's probably a pretty accurate replication of someone's head exploding.

 

[chandler bing]

The number bounced around a lot last year as I don't think anyone really knew how many spots UT actually had they could back count. With them filling them all last year in taking the 32, obviously it makes it a lot easier to figure out going forward.

Leb, you know squat about the numbers. Last year we would have taken more than 32 if guys if like Orlando Brown (remember him the guy that our staff was angry that he signed with oklahoma on signing day...), Travis Rudolph, Braxton Berrios, David Sharpe, Jarran Reed, Andrew Williams, Clifton Garrett, Adoree Jackson etc.....all those guys were recruited hard all the way up to signing day, but i guess we were just going to drop 8 current players for some of these guys......right.

I forgot Leb who didn't even understand or know about the Financial Aid Agreement papers until months after it was leaked to this board, again knows more than our coaches and important alums.

You are retarded if you believe Butch is going to talk about the numbers to the media. Believe it or not, people that go to big alumni functions and talk to the coaches here and there, know some things that don't make it out to the media. Further, i'd be willing to bet that even if certain media members did get hold of information like this, they are smart enough to know to sit on it since its not important news, it's strategy and private information to our program, and they don't want to risk losing their access over a piece of information that really does not gain more readers and is a non-story to most readers.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Leb, you know squat about the numbers. Last year we would have taken more than 32 if guys if like Orlando Brown (remember him the guy that our staff was angry that he signed with oklahoma on signing day...), Travis Rudolph, Braxton Berrios, David Sharpe, Jarran Reed, Andrew Williams, Clifton Garrett, Adoree Jackson etc.....all those guys were recruited hard all the way up to signing day, but i guess we were just going to drop 8 current players for some of these guys......right.

I forgot Leb who didn't even understand or know about the Financial Aid Agreement papers until months after it was leaked to this board, again knows more than our coaches and important alums.

You are retarded if you believe Butch is going to talk about the numbers to the media. Believe it or not, people that go to big alumni functions and talk to the coaches here and there, know some things that don't make it out to the media. Further, i'd be willing to bet that even if certain media members did get hold of information like this, they are smart enough to know to sit on it since its not important news, it's strategy and private information to our program, and they don't want to lose their access over a piece of information that really does not gain more readers.

You mad.

:birgits_giggle:

 

[sanddune50]

opcorn:

 

[DaddyChad]

IDK. I'll readily acknowledge IDK that much about the ins and outs of the numbers but everyone I've heard talk about it Matthews, Callahan, Hubbs, etc seemed to believe the hard number was 24-25 this year. We could of course get more if someone was blueshirted, greyshirted, or preferred walkon, etc. The number I've always seen heard was 25 with Swafford counting toward that 25.

 

[chandler bing]

You mad.

:birgits_giggle:

Not mad in the slightest. I just don't have the time to keep educating people like you who run around on this board arguing about conflicting recruiting info, what the number of signee's will be and the other nonsense you seem to spew out on a daily basis.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of noobs to this site that don't read or pay attention to the more informed posters, and because of the sheer volume of posts you make, a lot of noobs seem to think you know what is going on with Butch's program.

I like to stop by VN once in awhile to bring some real insight to the nonsensical babble and poor speculation that this board often breeds because of posters like you.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Not mad in the slightest. I just don't have the time to keep educating people like you who run around on this board arguing about conflicting recruiting info, what the number of signee's will be and the other nonsense you seem to spew out on a daily basis.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of noobs to this site that don't read or pay attention to the more informed posters, and because of the sheer volume of posts you make, a lot of noobs seem to think you know what is going on with Butch's program.

I like to stop by VN once in awhile to bring some real insight to the non-nonsensical babble and poor speculation that this board often breeds because of posters like you.

Oh you definitely mad.

lol:lol:

 

[DaddyChad]

Chandler couldn't you have cleared it up for the rest of us in the time it took to admonish Leb?

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

IDK. I'll readily acknowledge IDK that much about the ins and outs of the numbers but everyone I've heard talk about it Matthews, Callahan, Hubbs, etc seemed to believe the hard number was 24-25 this year. We could of course get more if someone was blueshirted, greyshirted, or preferred walkon, etc. The number I've always seen heard was 25 with Swafford counting toward that 25.

It is. It's always been 24-25 with the only question being Swafford counting or not. Some say he does, some say he doesn't. With him being in his 1st 2 years, he has to count somewhere.

 

[eazyTD]

If CBJ has said "we will sign 28", obviously no one has seen it. Rivals, Scout, 247, Hubbs, Callahan, no one has mentioned 28 as being a possibility for signees in 2015other than you. Getting to 32 last year was possible by back counting. With no spots to back count, 28 sounds like a lot of BS to me.

JMO

Hyams said yesterday on the radio that Tennessee will sign 28.

Callahan said this just yesterday and iirc, you chimed in saying he was drunk and used your patented hand over mouth giggle emoticon.

That's a bit of a moving target, but I expect Tennessee to sign at least 25 in this class — and perhaps one or two more than that. The Vols are likely to add at least four or five more guys to this class over the next few months, and it's possible they'll have some attrition along the way to offset one or two of those additions.

 

[eazyTD]

It is. It's always been 24-25with the only question being Swafford counting or not. Some say he does, some say he doesn't. With him being in his 1st 2 years, he has to count somewhere.

Wait...I thought it's always been 17?

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Chandler couldn't you have cleared it up for the rest of us in the time it took to admonish Leb?

I think that's the issue. He can't tell anyone "how" they will apparently sign 28, just that they will.

I can't help but get a kick out of how my posting seems to really perturb some folks.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Wait...I thought it's always been 17?

Yes, the # was 17 for a very long time as that was the spots available. I believe it's still 17. How many they decide to sign over 17 just points to how many current Vols they plan to force out from the roster. With most teams that number is about impossible to predict. Most schools don't just take the max and then force whatever they need to out. UT looks to be planning to do that this year.

 

[chandler bing]

Yes, clearly i am mad. Much like your impressive abilities to predict the magic number of signee's we take each year, you definitely are correct that i am livid right now.

I had hoped that you may take a step backwards and start doing some self-assessment and introspection, and actually think about how your false speculating can indirectly affect our program.

Apparently that is not the case. I'll try and spell it out for you in slow, mono-syllabic words so you can understand me. The reason i decided to bring this info to the board was because recruits read this board. This is a huge football board with a lot of traffic and it's free. Recruits are hearing from rival teams coaches and fans on twitter that we are almost full. Current commits i will not name, are worried they might be dropped or over-recruited because they see stupid speculation that eventually comes full circle back to them about us only signing 24 this year. Then our coaches have to call and talk to the kids and their families and reassure them that their scholarship offer is fine and they have nothing to worry about. People like you think that a internet forum where everyone can try to be anonymous has no repercussions or effect on things....well you are wrong. A lot of people read these boards, and whether its family members, friends or rival fans, things said on this board and other boards often gets back to the recruits and families in one fashion or another.

I hope you think about what i'm letting you know here, and i hope if you really are the rabid UT fan you claim to be, you may revisit and rethink some of the posting and speculation you continually put out there.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Yes, clearly i am mad. Much like your impressive abilities to predict the magic number of signee's we take each year, you definitely are correct that i am livid right now.

I had hoped that you may take a step backwards and start doing some self-assessment and introspection, and actually think about how your false speculating can indirectly affect our program.

Apparently that is not the case. I'll try and spell it out for you in slow, mono-syllabic words so you can understand me. The reason i decided to bring this info to the board was because recruits read this board. This is a huge football board with a lot of traffic and it's free. Recruits are hearing from rival teams coaches and fans on twitter that we are almost full. Current commits i will not name, are worried they might be dropped or over-recruited because they see stupid speculation that eventually comes full circle back to them about us only signing 24 this year. Then our coaches have to call and talk to the kids and their families and reassure them that their scholarship offer is fine and they have nothing to worry about. People like you think that a internet forum where everyone can try to be anonymous has no repercussions or effect on things....well you are wrong. A lot of people read these boards, and whether its family members, friends or rival fans, things said on this board and other boards often gets back to the recruits and families in one fashion or another.

I hope you think about what i'm letting you know here, and i hope if you really are the rabid UT fan you claim to be, you may revisit and rethink some of the posting and speculation you continually put out there.

My posting style will never change. If that is what you're hoping for, it's a lost cause.

 

[chandler bing]

Chandler couldn't you have cleared it up for the rest of us in the time it took to admonish Leb?

Daddy, if i attempted to tell you how we get 28 and the methods they use, i would be speculating.

I have my own guesses and opinions on how i think we will get to 28 or possibly even more, but they are just opinions. I don't claim to know Butch's exact plan, but i do know and have heard with my own ear's that he intends to sign 28.

I only brought this little bit of info because i've also heard a few commits are worried about their spots bc of rumors they are hearing from rival coaches and message boards and radio shows. All this incorrect speculation by various loudmouth individuals is in fact making our coaches jobs a little bit tougher having to keep on reassuring our commits while trying to recruit other prospects and coach....

 

[eazyTD]

My posting style will never change. If that is what you're hoping for, it's a lost cause.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Daddy, if i attempted to tell you how we get 28 and the methods they use, i would be speculating.

I have my own guesses and opinions on how i think we will get to 28 or possibly even more, but they are just opinions. I don't claim to know Butch's exact plan, but i do know and have heard with my own ear's that he intends to sign 28.

I only brought this little bit of info because i've also heard a few commits are worried about their spots bc of rumors they are hearing from rival coaches and message boards and radio shows. All this incorrect speculation by various loudmouth individuals is in fact making our coaches jobs a little bit tougher having to keep on reassuring our commits while trying to recruit other prospects and coach....

If you actually read the board, you would note that I am VERY pro commitment. I am one of the very few on here who tends to see a commitment as something that should be a sure thing. When people speak of "making room" and dropping commitments I am usually the one opposed to it. You may have an issue with folks doing that, but that's not me. It's cool you tried to direct it at me though. You getting all fired up makes things interesting.

 

[VolinArizona]

Per usual this board is wrong. Last year we took 32, when people for over a year on this board kept saying we couldn't take more than 30.

I am not going to expound on the details of how we get to 28 other than what i have said already. It's already been noted that the staff has said to some people around the program at a function that we will "sign" 28 and finish with a top 5 class.

You guys can try to argue and debate about how we get to 28 till you are blue in the face, but that is out of BJ's own mouth. So unless you guys know more about our staff's plans than Butch himself, i'll again defer to the brilliant braintrust and group-think of Volnation.

I actually had 2 very in depth posts calling that we could take 32 or 33. I'm telling you this year we can take 24 or 25 depending on how they worked everything out with Swafford.

 

[zansdad]

The number is 28 that we can sign. We can sign 28 this year and can probably blue-shirt a certain prospect (not hard to guess who) and sign and place a couple guys if they don't qualify. So we may end up with 30 or 31, but 29 at most will be on scholarship come next fall.

You may be right about the number being 28 but you lose credibility when you say "sign and place". They haven't been able to do that for a few years now.

 

[chandler bing]

If you actually read the board, you would note that I am VERY pro commitment. I am one of the very few on here who tends to see a commitment as something that should be a sure thing. When people speak of "making room" and dropping commitments I am usually the one opposed to it. You may have an issue with folks doing that, but that's not me. It's cool you tried to direct it at me though. You getting all fired up makes things interesting.

What you fail to grasp or understand is that recruiting is fluid and it is a dynamic and reactive set of events. You may be pro lets keep all of our commitments, but that is just a small part of the puzzle. Not all of our commits are 100% sure. Some are still keeping their options open, some are taking visits and phone calls. Some are worried about getting dropped. Some are worried about what position they are going to play in college. Just like some of the current commits are looking around, our coaches are not only recruiting others in case of a couple of last minute defections, but they are also recruiting guys that are takes no matter what. Butch knows the numbers will work themselves out. The number Butch is most concerned with is the 85 number. That is why he has gone to great lengths to make sure several players are on track to graduate this fall semester. There are ways to challenge former scholarships and LOI's and redshirts etc... There are ways to count forward. Just let the staff do what they do best and things will work themselves out. Just be happy we are going to end up with another top 5 class and stfu already lol.

 

[chandler bing]

You may be right about the number being 28 but you lose credibility when you say "sign and place". They haven't been able to do that for a few years now.

South Carolina has signed and placed about 7 guys from last years recruiting class. This practice still goes on, it just takes a different form. The method has changed, but the result is still the same.